False Prophet Tony Campolo Promotes Doctrines of Demons To ENC Students

1 Tim 4: 1-2 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

2 Pet. 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

Bear with me, this one’s a little long again, but this has gotten to the point of absolute outrage, and I need to tell you why.  Perhaps this is the last time some of you will want to hear from me, but what you will hear is the truth.  There needs to be another Reformation in the Church of the Nazarene, instead of a return to Rome as it appears to be heading, destroying everything that the reformers did so many years ago- destroying the very reasons why we call ourselves Protestants.  Are there any Martin Luthers out there who are willing to do what he did so long ago?  How long will the people of God sleep while the wolves keep devouring the sheep in the pen?  It is clear to me that the sheep pen doors are broken, the watchmen and the people of God have fallen asleep, and the ravening wolves have come inside the church.  And it is no surprise, because the greatest threat to the church has always been from within, not from without.  The shepherds of the church of God are abdicating their responsibility. (Acts 20:28-31)

First, a challenge:  If any ordained elder in the Nazarene church, and especially those who were at the chapel service on Friday, can show me through scripture that the practices promoted by Tony Campolo are biblical, I will recant my position on Tony Campolo and accept these practices myself.  Anyone responding to this challenge would need to send me a copy and allow their work to be posted publicly for all to read.  (I will not accept explanations using Psalm 46:10.  See the following for an explanation: Does Psalm 46:10 teaches Contemplative?).

Anger

This is the angriest I have been since I stepped into this mess called the emergent church movement.  I have been researching books and articles by and about emergent church leaders and mystics for the past two years; I have watched some of their videos and gotten upset at the false teachings and the disrespect of scripture.  But there is something about hearing this stuff firsthand, something about being there in person.  And that is probably why my blood is boiling even more now.  To hear a tool of satan trying to peddle his demonic doctrines to students at a holiness based Protestant school was just too much for me.  And to know that the leaders of that school are complicit in giving this man a platform is doubly maddening.  Yes, a tool and servant of satan was given a warm welcome at Eastern Nazarene College Friday morning.

As I pondered on Reformation weekend, which is a time to celebrate and think on what Martin Luther and others sacrificed for the sake of preserving the sole authority of scripture and true biblical doctrine, I thought of the perverse way that Tony Campolo used the reference to the Reformation to introduce his mystical practices whose source is not of God, but from satan.  What an insult to the memory of those who died for the sake of printing the Bible in defiance of Rome and its unbiblical papal authority that tried to deny the people the word of God in their own hands.  And now, it seems as if we are in need of yet another reformation, as apparently ENC and other Nazarene universities are returning to Rome and everything that the reformers fought against so many years ago.

So a pretending evangelical “Christian” pastor comes to a Christian chapel service for students, again, with the blessing of the leadership- which I had met with and warned!  They excused him as someone who has a lot of good things to offer, and perhaps if he had stuck with his beginning script, my outrage would be at a lower level.  And they had reassured me that they typically allow the opportunity later in some kind of session or other, for questions and debate.  If so, not this time!  I was told that Dr. Campolo was going to be too busy for questions.  So my question is this: when will there be an opportunity to correct the lies that he promulgated last Friday, and set the record straight with the students at ENC? Will the leadership extend an invitation to me or someone else, if we promise to only preach on the word of God alone, and nothing else?  Sola scriptura is one of the five great statements that came out of the Reformation, and that I can guarantee the President of ENC is what I will speak on, the word of God.  I offer to them now, the only chance for them to correct the big mistake that happened on Friday, to set the record straight on the mysticism that Campolo promoted that day.  If not me, then someone else.  If not someone else, then they are just as guilty in spreading his falsehoods as if they did it themselves!  And any discerning Christian who was there and recognized his falsehoods, and decide to stay silent, will have blood on their hands for not saying a word.  (Ezekiel 33) As I have written before, I’ll take that millstone and hang it around my neck, than be silent and let one of these young kids be deceived by satan and his servants.

Here are my final thoughts before I give you the details of what happened:

  1. Tony Campolo is still a false prophet, and the most dangerous kind: a very good and effective false prophet who is apparently fooling ordained elders in the church.
  2. Tony Campolo was allowed, unchallenged, to promote his doctrines of demons to several hundred students in a chapel service at a Christian school.
  3. The leadership at ENC, and perhaps the board of trustees, needs to answer and explain as to why he and others like him should be allowed to speak there, or to explain why he should never appear there again.
  4. To any Christian parents considering sending your child to ENC in the near future: please do not do it at this time, because you might be risking your child’s eternal destiny by doing so.  (The same goes for Northwest Nazarene, Trevecca, Point Loma, Nazarene Theological Seminary, and Nazarene Bible College.  These are just the ones I personally have documented as being in crisis).
  5. If you are a strong Bible believer opposed to unbiblical doctrines, do not send a dime to any of these schools until there is a return to biblically sound leadership that uses discernment in selecting its teachers and speakers.
  6. Are there any “Martin Luthers”  out there, who are willing to go to the leadership of each of these schools, and “nail another 95 Theses” to their door?
  7. If it becomes clear that the leadership of any of these schools persists in allowing unbiblical teachings to continue, I will urge all Bible believing Christians to begin daily prayer for that school to be shut down, for the safety of our students.

That is my opinion.  Campolo gave his Friday morning, and so did the leaders at my alma mater.  Will anyone else stand for truth, speak out, and challenge the leadership?

My Report on Friday’s Chapel Service

I attended the student chapel, along with my brother John, to hear Campolo speak. He was there promoting his Compassion Ministry and encouraged everyone to sponsor a child in need.  His main scriptural theme was based on Matthew 13 and the parable of the seeds.  He spoke eloquently about the tragedy of what happened in Haiti, and how so many children need our help. He challenged the students to do more than be a believer, but also be a believer who can respond to needs such as this.  He was impressive, and obviously is a passionate and accomplished speaker.

David Cloud (Way of Life) says of Campolo:

“Campolo is a master entertainer. No doubt about it. Of course, that is the kind of speaker who is popular in this confused, carnal hour. Campolo is dynamic, interesting, and personable. He appeals to the young and to the old. He can make you laugh, and he can make you cry. He is full of zeal. He can move people. But Campolo is a dangerous man because of his aberrant theology.”

So here’s the problem, in spite of the good words said, and the random quoting of scripture.  Tony Campolo is still a false prophet. A false prophet who managed to get our ire up about five times greater than it was before we heard him speak. Ironically, there we were, a few days before Reformation Sunday, and I thought that right there, in a Protestant Bible believing church building, it was going to be a very safe message.  And he sure sprinkled enough scripture in there that day!  But I remind you that satan  used scripture as he tried to offer an easy life to the Lord Jesus Christ.  Do you know that the mark of a good false teacher is the leaven he inserts in the middle of all that good sounding message he seems to be bringing?  Are you one of those who can only recognize the Benny Hinns of the world, because they are so obvious, yet cannot recognize the real professional spiritual shysters and PHd’s in con artistry such as Tony Campolo?

And so Tony Campolo could not help himself on Friday, and managed to sow some seeds of his own.  Funny, I said to myself- at least he does not hide what he believes!  Not so those who I have confronted for the last two years and did not have the courage to admit what they truly believe, but instead couched their words in mystery so you never know what they profess for sure.  Unfortunately, some of the seeds he sowed are not the kind of seed that Jesus Christ and His apostles ever sowed.

Let’s get to what he said that disturbed me, and ought to disturb every Bible believing Christian reading this. What is most upsetting is not Campolo speaking at ENC, but the leadership allowing him to speak, and letting the students and even some adults there walk away singing his praises, oblivious to the heresy he just spewed out.  Was there any discernment amongst those who were “mature” Christians?  I saw a good number of pastors there, and I am amazed how some of them did not think that anything wrong was said that morning!  I know, because some of them have told me they don’t agree with me on the same issues that Campolo brought up.

Campolo quoted St. Francis of Assisi early on.  He stated also that the best Christian songs often come from Broadway shows, such as Les Misérables! An example he said was “The Impossible Dream.”  (We thought that was a bit silly, but he did get a couple of approving chuckes from the listeners).  He talked about being a ‘red letter’ Christian.   However, these supposed red letter Christians end up picking and choosing which words of Jesus they wish to obey, and which to ignore- particularly the hard words about sin, repentance, Jesus being the only way, future judgment, and hell.  They overlook certain red letters, because they are hypocrites fashioning their own man made gospel and picking only the scriptures that make them feel good about themselves.

He called himself a “follower of Jesus.” That’s code for “I hate the word ‘Christian’, and saying that I’m a ‘follower of Jesus’ shows that I am part of the hip, post-modern culture that whispers to everyone… “you can follow Jesus, but not necessarily be a Christian”.  That’s exactly what some of these people believe when they use that phrase.  A Buddhist or a Hindu can be a follower of Jesus, and stay in their religion, as Brian McLaren has said.

The Reformation was Good… And Bad

So now he’s got them where he wants them, soon after tugging at their hearts about the kids who lost their limbs in Haiti.  So now he mentions the Reformation, how we can thank the Reformation for weeding out many horrible doctrines that were taught in that day.  But…. here comes the but….. he also says that we also “lost a lot of good things from the Reformation.” Like the following, which he shamelessly promoted and encouraged everyone to practice:

  1. Centering Prayer (or contemplative prayer)
  2. Lectio Divina
  3. The Jesus Prayer  (a mantra, a repetitive use of a word, usually Jesus, over and over).
  4. The Prayer of Examen (St. Ignatius)  “I’m into St. Ignatius these days”

(This excerpt from the Emerging Church DVD, by Ray Yungen, explains centering prayer, mantras, and more)

He said “I say the name of Jesus over and over again”, and suggested that we try it, that we should do it for 15 minutes, until this ritual “drives away the dark forces around us.” Magical formula?  A “Christian” incantation to drive away the demons?  Pastors, do you practice this, or would you allow Tony Campolo to teach this to your congregation?  Any pastors out there who can testify to the effectiveness and biblical soundness of this kind of prayer?  Is this one of those “non-essentials” that we can disagree on?

In describing Centering Prayer, he said “it takes only 15 minutes to be inwardly still.” He asked, “when was the last time you were still for 20 minutes- so that you can come alive in Christ?” Which chapters and verses, Tony, are you referring to, that teach us this mindless way of “coming alive in Christ?”  Perhaps some of the pastors who attended can explain this one to me, since no question and answer session was on the schedule for the day.

Where is the biblical justification for any of this?  And if there is none at all, why do so many tolerate this?  Campolo also said, “be still, and let the spirit of God teach you.” This man is promoting mindless, Christianized transcendental meditation- and nobody cares??  It is NOT Christian!  And the only thing I may have done wrong, was perhaps I should have stood up and challenged this messenger of satan’s lies, right in front of all those students and pastors in that chapel.

Finally, he talked about doing these practices so that we can find ourselves in that “thin place” that the Celtic Christians used to talk about”. This alone, if nothing else was said, made me want to jump up and interrupt him- and perhaps I should have.  What’s a thin place, you ask?  You won’t find it in scripture, because its roots are from the occult, and its described as: “In simple terms a ‘thin place’ is a place where the veil between this world and the Other world is thin, the Other world is more near.  This meaning assumes the perceiver senses the existence of a world beyond  what we know through our five senses.

Here is what he says from one of his books:

“The constant repetition of his name clears my head of everything but the awareness of his presence. By driving back all other concerns, I am able to create what the ancient Celtic Christians called ‘THE THIN PLACE.’ The thin place is that spiritual condition wherein the separation between the self and God becomes so thin that God is able to break through and envelop the soul. … Like most Catholic mystics, [Loyola] developed an intense desire to experience A ‘ONENESS’ WITH GOD” (Letters to a Young Evangelical, pp. 26, 30).

Roger Oakland explains in his book about this terminology:

“This term ‘thin place’ originated with Celtic spirituality (i.e., contemplative) and is in line with panentheism. … Thin places imply that God is in all things, and the gap between God, evil, man, everything thins out and ultimately disappears in mediation” (Faith Undone, pp. 114, 115).

So Tony Campolo is recommending to students at a holiness based college, with Nazarene pastors sitting right there listening to him, to practice occultic, mantra-like rituals and pagan contemplative prayer, which has nothing- nothing to do with the Bible.  As I looked around at the pastors who were there, I wondered to myself: do they have any idea that this man is spouting heresies to hundreds of students?  Do they care?  Or worst still, do they agree with him?  Would there be one pastor who was there that day, who will now speak to the leadership at ENC and ask, what are you exposing our students to?

Several times, as I listened to this man speak, I prayed as I looked around at these young people, all young enough to be my children.  I prayed to God that not one would remember what he suggested for them to try and do; that not one would fall under the spell of this deceiver; that not one would soon start sitting in a circle with his friends, and practice mind-emptying silence in an expectation of “coming alive in Christ.”  If I could weep tears on the outside, they would have flowed nonstop that morning.  I wanted to stand up and yell, “this is wrong!”  I even pictured myself running down the aisle to confront this man in front of everyone.  I wept inside, as I asked myself, what is the Nazarene denomination doing to itself?  Where has the obedience to God’s word gone, that leaders will put up with anyone and anything now?  Why are the people of God sitting idly by, while our leaders are throwing our students to the wolves?

As my brother and I stood outside sometime after it was all over, a friend we knew came up to us and said: “wasn’t that a powerful message?”  I hesitated for a second, and then I had to tell this person the truth.  I told her the truth about Tony Campolo, and I spoke the truth about our denomination, and what happened to me as I counted the cost of standing for truth.  Clearly when this friend left us, she was a bit uncomfortable, not having expected to hear the kind of response I gave her.  I pray that she will start looking into these things herself.  A young man also asked us how we liked the service, and I had to tell him the truth, giving him a card and asking him to go my blog to read what I am writing now.  It was not a comfortable time for him as he heard my opinion about Tony Campolo, but I had to tell the truth.  I pray that he will keep an open mind to what I have to say.

Maybe for some of you, it’s not a confortable time right now as you read this.  Did I make you uncomfortable?  Did I make you dislike me, or think of me as a hater, a divider, a troublemaker?  Do you think Jesus or the apostles would tolerate for one minute what Tony Campolo promoted Friday?  If not, then why should you or I tolerate it?  And why would you be angry at me, if I spoke the truth?  Or maybe I am I telling lies.  How do you discern who is telling the truth, and who is telling lies?  You look to the word of God, not your feelings, not not personal loyalties, nothing but the word of God.

The truth must be told, whether anyone likes to hear it or not, and the light must be shone on these false teachers so they can be exposed to the whole world.  And let the truth be clearly understood: the real dividers in the church are those who are allowing false doctrines to creep in through false prophets like Campolo and the others.  Not Manny Silva.  Not Concerned Nazarenes.  Not any discernment ministry out there today.  And if there is to be any division, let it be a division of those who obey the word of God, from those who do not.  Tony Campolo used the parable of the seeds for his message.  Ironically, here is the parable that follows:

Mat. 13:24-30 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.”

The enemy used Tony Campolo to sow the seeds of apostasy on Friday morning, Oct. 29, at Eastern Nazarene College.  It is time to separate the tares from the wheat, just as Jesus commanded.  It is time for repentance.  It is time for the sleeping Christians to wake up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FK2W2ljZHU

Nazarene Schools Drifting Away From Biblical Soundness

Nazarene Theological Seminary and Nazarene Bible College are two schools responsible for preparing future pastors in the Nazarene church.  What are they teaching or promoting which is different from many years ago?  More importantly, is there anything they are teaching that is reflecting a compromise with the emergent church, contemplative spirituality movements, and other man-centered ideologies?

Nazarene Bible College is teaching the practice of lectio divina and embracing Roman Catholic resources. This alone is a serious problem, if there were no other!  This seems par for the course now, as you will also note the same trend at NTS.  It is disturbing to me that our Nazarene universities and Bible schools show signs of ecumenism, specifically in the  Roman Catholic resources and books.  In the Spiritual Formation course at NBC, Practicing Wesleyan-Holiness Spiritual Formation, one of the books used is  Accepting the Embrace of God: The Ancient Art of Lectio Divina“.  The book is described as “an introduction to the discipline of praying the scriptures (spiritual reading) written by a Benedictine priest. He explains the four steps in the process and discusses how it can be used by a group.”  Since when have Benedictine monks become a standard source of guidance for a school that carries the banner of a Wesleyan holiness denomination?  Has the leadership at NBC shrugged their shoulders to the biblical admonitions to avoid those who preach another gospel? Is it not inevitable that when Christians start compromising with practically any denomination regardless of serious doctrinal differences, that eventually they will themselves be compromised, and be weakened in their faith and practice?  Romans 12 commands us (does not suggest) to “not be conformed to the world.”  Galatians 1:8 warns that if anyone brings to you another gospel, that they should be accursed!  Are not the major teachings of the Roman Catholic church another gospel?  Or has the Nazarene leadership given its blessings for the acceptance of  Roman Catholicism as being as sound doctrinally as traditional Protestantism?  What do our General Superintendents think about this trend?

Nazarene Bible College, whether through ignorance, or through deliberate planning, is embracing contemplative spirituality practices.  It would seem to me that the natural steps will be a further addition of contemplative prayer techniques as lectio divina becomes accepted by default as something  biblically sound.  Perhaps lectio divina has been perceived as the safest practice that can be accepted by Christians as something good and seemingly in line with biblical doctrine.  So once we can safely move from there, others are sure to follow, for why stop with that?  If the “ancient Christian practices” are sound, it’s a matter of time that they will be introduced also, and they are.  Prayer labyrinths will most likely soon be introduced at our seminaries.  They are at least in one university (Trevecca) and are being used without any sort of embarrassment or guilt, approved by its own President, Dr. Dan Boone.  I wonder how pastors reading this would react to a prayer labyrinth at our seminaries and Bible college?  Would some write a letter expressing concern?  Would others accept it as something within the bounds of Christian orthodoxy?

At Nazarene Theological Seminary (NTS), you can see the same trend in their course offerings and required books.  Spiritual Formation classes are par for the course.  In one class taught by Dr. Doug Hardy, called  Christian Spiritual Practices:  Sacraments and Asceticism, what you see is practically a Roman Catholic flavor.  One book is The Desert Fathers: Sayings of the Early Christian Monks.  Wait a minute, we are now interested in the sayings of the heretical Desert Fathers as required reading at a Nazarene seminary?  For what purpose, and to what end?  If its to point out the fact that these people were unbiblical in their ascetic approach to Christian living, that’s one thing.  But I doubt that is what this book is being used for.  Then the seemingly obligatory use of a Richard Foster book in practically every Nazarene university.  This one is called Freedom of Simplicity: Finding Harmony in a Complex World.  Don’t know what he has to offer with this, but I am again reminded how the some of the Bible doubters at NazNet complain that we concerned Nazarenes use resources that are not part of the Wesleyan tradition, yet they have no problem citing and use false teachers such as Foster.  At least my non-Nazarene resources actually believe in the truth and complete reliability of the entire Bible!

Another course, Seminar in Spiritual Formation, taught again by Doug Hardy, gives instruction on how to do pilgrimages.  One book is A Pilgrim’s Journey: The Autobiography of Ignatius of Loyola. Does Dr. Hardy have any idea of the history of Ignatius?  If he does, then I am even more concerned.  Here are just a few facts about Ignatius, excerpted from David Cloud’s book, Contemplative Mysticism: “Loyola’s asceticism was very extreme. He lived for a year in a cave, wearing rags, never bathing, and begging for his food. All of this was an effort to do penance for his sins. He scourged and starved himself and slept very little. He taught that “penance” for sin requires “chastising the body by inflicting sensible pain on it” through “wearing hairshirts, cords, or iron chains on the body, or by scourging or wounding oneself, and by other kinds of austerities” (The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius, First Week, Vintage Spiritual Classics, p. 31).”  And this book is a good resource… how?  Loyola also dedicated himself to Mary, taught visualization prayer, promoted breath prayers, the use of spiritual directors, and his aforementioned book is growing in popularity amongst evangelicals. You can read the entire excerpt from Cloud’s book at his Way of Life website.

So again, this is yet another Roman Catholic resource.  And I have written previously about the dozens of Roman Catholic and mystical books recommended by Dr. Hardy for the Windsor Hills Camp library, and his involvement with the Spiritual Directors International, an interspiritual group that is ecumenical and promotes contemplative spirituality amongst all religions.

Finally, in Christian Spiritual Practices:  Connection and Service, taught by Dr. Hardy also, you find books such as: The Way of Friendship: Selected Spiritual Writings, by Basil Pennington.  Pennington is a heavy promoter of contemplative spirituality practices such as centering prayer (the focusing on a word and silently repeating it over and over again), which are unbiblical.  Why use him as a resource?  To show an example of what is not good?  I think not.  And then there is Flirting with Monasticism: Finding God on Ancient Paths, by Karen Sloan.  Sloan is a graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary, which is no longer a sound Christian institution.  In the description at Amazon books, part of it says The book, which reads like a blog, explores areas where evangelicals may feel at home with monasticism (community life) as well as with practices that feel foreign (praying to the saints and the Virgin Mary).”  Okay, let’s explore that area, shall we?  Praying to the virgin Mary!
I never thought I would see the day this would be happening across practically all of our Bible schools.  It’s amazing and disheartening to see, yet, does anyone care?

This is just a taste of it all.  There will be more posts on this, highlighting more of the things that are pointing ever consistently towards a move of our Christian universities and seminaries to becoming Roman Catholic; if not in name, certainly in practice.

Update And Prayer Request: Bob Dewaay

Dear friends,

The following is an update put out by Pastor Ken Silva a few days ago, and I wanted to share the same concern and a prayer request.  I first met Bob Dewaay personally a few months ago when my brother John and I went to Maine to a conference hosted by the AIIA Institute, where Bob was the keynote speaker.  He is the pastor at Twin City Fellowship in Minneapolis, MN.  He also has an apologetics ministry called Critical Issues Commentary (http://cicministry.org/).  I have learned much from Bob’s excellent writing, including a solid book exposing the emergent church: The Emergent Church: Undefining Christianity.  He has been one of my top resources in researching false teachings, mysticism in the church, and other false doctrines.  For those of you who particularly are in this battle, and who count so much on folks like Bob to expose the heresies invading the church today, please be in prayer for this warrior for biblical truth.

UPDATE ON HEALTH CONCERNS FOR PASTOR BOB DEWAAY

By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Oct 22, 2010

This online apologetics and discernment work Apprising Ministries has been greatly blessed by the work in the Lord of  Bob DeWaay, pastor of Twin City Fellowship, who also heads their fine online apologetics ministry Critical Issues Commentary.

You may be aware that pastor DeWaay is suffering some serious issues with his health. Below is an update from the TFC website. We encourage you to pray for Bob DeWaay, his family, and the flock in his care:


Here is a link to Pastor Bob’s common sense explanation of the Emergent Church:  Emerging Church Exposed and Defined

Profiles In Apostasy: Tony Campolo

What would be the wisdom in bringing in a false teacher to your church, to speak to your congregation as if he was a sound Bible believer who preaches from the word of God?  Maybe he has something nice to say, but would a true under shepherd of the flock give the pulpit to someone just because he has something nice to say?  I’ve heard Benny Hinn and Joel Osteen say lots of nice things, but would you invite them to speak at your church?

What about the responsibility of our Christian college leaders?  Is it a misguided idea for us to expect them to protect our students from the wolves in sheep’s clothing that are multiplying today?  Are our Christian college leaders and chaplains using biblical discernment in deciding who should speak to our students in chapel?

Next week on Friday, Oct. 29,  Tony Campolo is scheduled to speak at chapel services at Eastern Nazarene College.  A few months ago, I met with President Corlis McGee, as well as the school provost and school chaplain, and voiced my objection to Tony Campolo on the grounds that he could easily mislead many students into thinking that he is a Christian who teaches sound doctrine.  We had a very cordial meeting, but there was no agreement on Campolo, as well as other troubling issues that I raised regarding the school.  There is much more to be written about Campolo, and will be, but let me give you a sampling of some of his thoughts on Christianity, Islam, and other related topics.  Did Eastern Nazarene College use proper discernment, or not, in scheduling Tony Campolo to speak at a chapel service?  Remember, he is not the first questionable speaker.  I was there last year when Thomas Oord, who teaches the heresy of open theism, was a guest lecturer.  This is a trend happening in many Nazarene universities today, and the response I get usually is that the school is just providing students with a perspective on a wide range of ideologies and opinions, and letting them mature on their own and decide what they want to believe.  Okay.

Here are some of Tony Campolo’s thoughts on a range of topics in Christianity.  What do you think?

“Beyond these models of reconciliation, a theology of mysticism provides some hope for common ground between Christianity and Islam. Both religions have within their histories examples of ecstatic union with God, which seem at odds with their own spiritual traditions but have much in common with each other.”

(Page 149, Speaking My Mind)

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“I am saying that there is no salvation apart from Jesus; that’s my evangelical mindset. However, I am not convinced that Jesus only lives in Christians”

(National Liberty Journal, 8/99)

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“…what can I say to an Islamic brother who has fed the hungry, and clothed the naked? You say, “But he hasn’t a personal relationship with Christ.” I would argue with that. And I would say from a Christian perspective, in as much as you did it to the least of these you did it unto Christ. You did have a personal relationship with Christ, you just didn’t know it.”

EVANGELICALS AND INTERFAITH COOPERATION, An Interview by Shane Claiborne

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“We cannot allow our theologies to separate us” (speaking on the relations between Muslims and Christians)

EVANGELICALS AND INTERFAITH COOPERATION, An Interview by Shane Claiborne

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“It seems to me that when we listen to the Muslim mystics as they talk about Jesus and their love for Jesus, I must say, it’s a lot closer to New Testament Christianity than a lot of the Christians that I hear. In other words if we are looking for common ground, can we find it in mystical spirituality, even if we cannot theologically agree, Can we pray together in such a way that we connect with a God that transcends our theological differences?”

EVANGELICALS AND INTERFAITH COOPERATION, An Interview by Shane Claiborne

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“”Beyond these models of reconciliation, a theology of mysticism provides some hope for common ground between Christianity and Islam. Both religions have within their histories examples of ecstatic union with God … I do not know what to make of the Muslim mystics, especially those who have come to be known as the Sufis. What do they experience in their mystical experiences? Could they have encountered the same God we do in our Christian mysticism?”

“Speaking My Mind”, pages 149-150

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“Jesus is the only Savior, but not everybody who is being saved by Him is aware that He is the one who is doing the saving”

EP News Service, Oct. 4, 1985

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“…during times of reflection I sensed that believing in Jesus and living out His teachings just wasn’t enough. There was a yearning for something more, and I found that I was increasingly spiritually gratified as I adopted older ways of praying–ways that have largely been ignored by those of us in the Protestant tradition. Counter-Reformation saints like Ignatius of Loyola have become important sources of help as I have begun to learn from them modes of contemplative prayer. I practice what is known as “centering prayer,” in which a sacred word is repeated as a way to be in God’s presence.”

“Mystical Encounters for Christians”

www.beliefnet.com

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“I’ve got to push everything out of mind save the name of Jesus. I say His name over and over again, for as long as fifteen minutes, until I find my soul suspended in what the ancient Celtic Christians called a “thin place”–a state where the boundary between heaven and earth, divine and human, dissolves. You could say that I use the name of Jesus as my koan.”

“Mystical Encounters for Christians”

www.beliefnet.com

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“He saved us in order that He might begin to transform His world into the kind of world that He willed for it to be when He created it. … When Jesus saved us, He saved us to be agents of a great revolution, the end of which will come when the kingdoms of this world will become the Kingdom of our God”

“It’s Friday but Sundays Coming”, page 106

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“What I am trying to say is that Jesus who incarnated God 2,000 years ago is mystically present and waiting to be discovered in EVERY person you and I encounter”

“A Reasonable Faith” 1983 page 171

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“I do not mean that others represent Jesus for us. I mean that Jesus actually is present in each other person.”

“A Reasonable Faith” 1983 page 192

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“That a new humanity will be brought forth from this Christ consciousness in each person.”

“A Reasonable Faith” 1983 page 65

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“There is a feminine side of God. I always knew this … It is this feminine side of God I find in Jesus that makes me want to sing duets with Him … Not only do I love the feminine is Jesus, but the more I know Jesus, the more I realize that Jesus loves the feminine in me. Until I accept the feminine in my humanness, there will be a part of me that cannot receive the Lord’s love. … There is that feminine side of me that must be recovered and strengthened if I am to be like Christ … And until I feel the feminine in Jesus, there is a part of Him which I cannot identify.”

“Carpe Diem: Seize the Day”, 1994, pages 85-88

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“going to heaven is like going to Philadelphia….There are many ways….It doesn’t make any difference how we go there. We all end up in the same place.”

“Carpe Diem: Seize the Day”, 1994, pages 85-88

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“On the other hand, we are hard-pressed to find any biblical basis for condemning deep love commitments between homosexual Christians, as long as those commitments are not expressed in sexual intercourse.”

“20 Hot Potatoes Christians Are Afraid To Touch”, page 117

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“I’m not convinced that Jesus only lives in Christians.”

Charlie Rose show on January 24, 1997

Thanks to thinkerup for posting a list of all these quotes.

Emergent Church, Welcome Your Wiccan Brothers and Sisters

It’s getting crazier, and scarier every day. I used to think that only the really slick, smooth talking false teachers like Rob Bell, Leonard Sweet, and Richard Foster, would be able to fool so many Christians, so many of my fellow Nazarenes.  But it seems now that Satan is getting bolder and bolder.  He is casting aside the subtlety, and guiding his minions into new declarations of unity with just about anyone.  The formula of 99% truth mixed with 1% deception is changing to a deeper mix of error, and apparently it can work quite well. Now it’s an emergent church leader, Samir Selmanovic, who is doing kumbayah with Wiccans, as told in the following report by Ingrid Schlueter.  (*Note regarding my alma mater, Eastern Nazarene College.  Tony Campolo will be speaking on Oct. 29 in chapel service on the campus.  What does he have to do with this?  Well, just that Campolo sings the praises of this pretend Christian: “Samir Selmanovic is just what we have needed to bring the spirit of Christ to bear in a fractured society.” I’ll have a report on Campolo after the ENC speaking engagement, although I have personally suggested to ENC leadership that they rethink this invitation for Campolo.)


If anyone thinks that they are immune from deception, think again.  If you have not bought the lies of these emergent false teachers, I suggest you remain on your guard with the full armor on, 24/7.  Put the Joel Osteen feel good books down and pick up your Bible instead!  If you have bought the lie, or are burying your head in the sand, I am praying for you.  Look at all the lies that have snuck into so many of our Nazarene and other Christian universities, and even our seminaries, and it makes me wonder whether the deception even has to be subtle anymore, from reading this latest story.  Will we go a step further and get a little closer to embracing Wiccans also?  Farfetched you say?  Look at our embrace of nothing less than Christianized transcendental meditation, as well as Roman Catholic practices and the promotion of unity with this church institution that teaches a false gospel.  (You don’t disagree that the RCC teaches a false gospel, do you?)

Look at the normalization of pagan practices forbidden by scripture, like the prayer labyrinth, right in the Nazarene church and some of the schools.  Is anyone okay with that, and if so, what justifies sit?  If you re okay with all that and more, then it is not farfetched anymore to think that soon, in the Nazarene denomination, more of what was considered abnormal and un-Christian, will be embraced.  It’s just a matter of time, isn’t it?  Look at the open theism being taught, the acceptance of evolution, the practical denial that all of th Bible is God’s infallible inspired word!  Call me crazy, but just as as the United Methodists, the ELCA, and others have accepted and embraced homosexuality as normal and started ordaining openly gay priests, what’s to stop the Nazarene denomination?   Perhaps we have already taken baby steps towards that in our official writings, but no one is aware of it yet.  We’ve gone off the deep end in so many ways, why should we stop now?  Besides, is that not the goal- as much unity as possible with as many as possible?  Is that not what the scriptures teach us?  “Why can’t we all just get along?”

Makes me wonder more and more, how will the Anti-christ show himself someday?  Who will it be?  And how many of the “elect” will be swept away by his deception?  I don’t know, but Satan surely is working his “mojo” overtime now to prepare the way for that “man of perdition”.  As you ponder the following story, don’t think for a minute that this is as bad as it will get.  If you are among those who have bought into the emergent church lie, or are looking away from this bad traffic accident in front of you, wait until later, because it will get even worse.  This is simply Satan “masquerading as an angel of light” again (2 Corinthians 11:12-15). I sure don’t want to be one of those who will be deluded in the last days.

  • 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

Emergent Church Leader Worships with Wiccans

Posted by Ingrid Schlueter in Emergent Church, Religion on October 14th, 2010 |

Just in time for Halloween, cutting-edge emergent leader Samir Selmanovic breaks new ground by drawing the Wiccans close to his breast. He runs a place called Faith House Manhattan where the world religions meet together in microcosm and draw from each others spirituality. Here’s his tweet from October 12 where he announces his wonderful guests, the Wiccans. He goes further by reporting on the theological witch’s brew that he stirs in this news report from Faith House. He says that this fall at Faith House they’re exploring how to cross boundaries into “new spaces.” Well, that’s certainly one way to put it. Apprising Ministries shares more on Selmanovic’s attempt at blending darkness and light, the table of Christ and demons, and shows Selmanovic’s gushing tweets about celebrating the occult holiday of Samhain with the witches.

You have to hand it to Samir. At least he’s not shucking and jiving like some of his emergent colleagues. His interspiritual agenda is right there out front. He’s helping to bring world religions together, including occult religions, to drink from a common well, and he’s proud of it. Increasingly, there are fewer emergent wolves bothering with the sheep costume. With pastors  today doing things like sex campaigns and life-enhancement sermons, there are no wolf warnings going out. The wolves are now openly stalking their prey.


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