Petition To Support A PLNU Decision

There is much criticism to be said about Point Loma Nazarene University, and I certainly have in the past.  Point Loma has much to do in order to restore a strong biblical foundation to the university.

But today is not my day to criticize them in their shortcomings, but to support a decision they have recently made.  So, when such a decision is made by them that abides by God’s word, in the face of public pressure, they need to be commended and encouraged to stand their ground.  So today I am asking you to go to the following website and add your name in support of that decision.  For details on this, see related articles at the end of this post.

PETITION DETAILS:
I just signed the petition “Point Loma Nazarene University: I love students who struggle with same gender attraction, but I support your decision not to allow an LGBTQ club!” and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.

Our goal is to reach 1,000 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:

https://www.change.org/petitions/point-loma-nazarene-university-i-love-students-who-struggle-with-same-gender-attraction-but-i-support-your-decision-not-to-allow-an-lgbtq-club

Please pray for the students at Point Loma who have been deceived into thinking that homosexuality is compatible with Christianity.  Much of this confusion has been brought about by those in the emergent church movement, such as Brian McLaren, Rob Bell, and Tony Jones.  This fallacy is leading many towards hell.

Related articles:

http://www.10news.com/news/gay-themed-group-denied-charter-at-point-loma-nazarene-university-121112http://www.10news.com/news/gay-themed-group-denied-charter-at-point-loma-nazarene-university-121112

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDBpf5WVA1o

 http://www.bridgepointloma.com/hear-these-words-of-mine/

A Word of Thanks, An Exhortation At Christmas Time

First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world.  Rom 1:8

“Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you; 13 but to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing; so that also at the revelation of His glory, you may rejoice with exultation. 14 If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. 15 By no means let any of you suffer as a murderer, or thief, or evildoer, or a troublesome meddler; 16 but if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not feel ashamed, but in that name let him glorify God. 17 For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18 And if it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved, what will become of the godless man and the sinner? 19 Therefore, let those also who suffer according to the will of God entrust their souls to a faithful Creator in doing what is right.”
The purpose of this is to give a personal thank you to those who have supported my ministry, and who have stood with me- and allowed me to stand with them- for the inerrant word of God, and the real Gospel of Jesus Christ.  To those reading this who are “on the fence”- please continue to read my posts in the future, and consider all in the light of God’s true and fully inspired word.” 1 Peter 4:12-19

The purpose of this is to give a personal thank you to those who have supported my ministry, and who have stood with me- and allowed me to stand with them- for the inerrant word of God, and the real Gospel of Jesus Christ.  To those reading this who are “on the fence”- please continue to read my posts in the future, and consider all in the light of God’s true and fully inspired word.

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

If I could write to each of your personally this week, I would.  But you may not get this until next month if I did.  So please understand that I mean all I say here to you in a personal way.

This message is one of thanks to God for all of you whom I have met in the past four years, and to thank you for your faithfulness to God’s word, and to the Lord Jesus Christ.  I also thank you for your encouragement for my ministry and what little I have been able to do with it.  Many of you have said that I have been helpful and encouraging to you as well, and for that I thank God and all the glory goes to Him alone!  Yet, so many of you have given me so much in return, that no one person deserves all these blessings.  I have told many of you that your email responses to me were better expressions than what my original article that you responded to!  I truly have been blessed by you, perhaps you have no idea how much!  God will reward you for your kindness, and for your steadfastness in the faith.

God has been good to my family, and throughout the last four years, has helped me and my family grow and become strengthened in our walk with Him.  My oldest son now knows who some of the false teachers are, and makes me laugh whenever he brings up the subject of Todd Bentley or Rob Bell!  I have taught him to know that it is better to lose all your friends and remain faithful to God, than to keep fellowship with those who would be disobedient for the sake of a phony fellowship and “unity.”  His struggles four years were more than what a father wants a son to bear, but he has learned from his trials as well, and that “…we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. (Rom 8:28)

Part of that growing has been the followship, albeit most of it long distance, from many of you.  I have had the added blessing of finally meeting some of you in person, from as far away as San Diego; others I have spoken on the phone with; and I look forward to meeting many of you personally someday soon, God willing.  I have a feeling that at General Assembly I will see some of you and give you a personal thanks and a big hug.  I cannot mention names now, but some of you know that we have become as close as if you were part of my own family!

May the love of Jesus Christ be with you all, and may He bless you in all that you do to further the Gospel- within the Christian church!
I know from many of the emails I have received from you, that you too are being persecuted for the sake of the truth.  It is not the physical persecution, and sometimes killing, that is occurring to so many Christians around the world.  But it is a “persecution of the mind”, and the sad thing is that this persecution is coming from within, from those who profess to know the Lord, but whose fruits tell us otherwise.

I exhort you to:

- Remain strong in the faith for the sake of others (Romans 15:1)
- Do not waver in speaking the truth, even if it is hurtful (John 8:31-32)
- Be willing to lose it all for the sake of the Lord- family, friends, everything (1 Peter 4:12-19, Philipians 3:8)
- Do not let any of the “wise men” tell you that you are ignorant (Psalm 119:99)
- Do not succumb to the lie of “thou shalt never judge” (Mat. 7:1-5, 1 Cor 2:1)
- Do not fail to correct a brother or sister in error (Rom 15:14)
- Examine all preacher’s teachings, and reject it if it is not the truth (2 Cor. 11:13-15)
- Do not join hands with the world, or with those “Christians” who have welcomed the world (2 Cor. 6:14-15)
- Continue to believe in God’s word- all of it! (Psalm 119:160)
- Do not be ashamed to say that you believe ALL that God’s word says and teaches (Rom. 1:16)
- Preach the unvarnished Gospel message- preach the Cross, and Christ crucified. (1 Cor. 1:23)
- Reject the social gospel, and all other false gospels (Gal 1:6-10)
- Persevere, and be faithful to the end, and you will receive the crown of life (James 1:12)

I look forward to being inspired by many of you again this coming year.  Lord willing, if He has not returned yet, be prepared for His return, and preach the Gospel to and many as possible, including within the church itself.

“… look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draweth nigh.” (Luke 21:28)

Blessings in the name of Jesus.  Be blessed this Christmas season, and take the opportunity to witness to the real reason for Christmas.

Manny Silva

John Wesley Was A Fundamentalist: A Rebuttal To Dr. Truesdale’s Argument

John Wesley was a fundamentalist.  He believed the Bible is inerrant and infallible in all that it teaches.  Let’s set the record straight.

“Wesleyans aren’t fundamentalists because that would require them to exchange a high doctrine of Scripture for a low one.”… “We shouldn’t ask the Church of the Nazarene, which is a Wesleyan denomination, to exchange its high doctrine of Scripture for a lesser one.”  (Al Truesdale)

These words by Dr. Al Truesdale in his article from Holiness Today (Why Wesleyans Aren’t Fundamentalists) sums up the thinking of some modern day Nazarene theologians who seem to be revising Nazarene history, as well as revising the history of John Wesley.  In this article, Dr. Truesdale flips things upside down and makes the incredible assertion that those who believe that the Bible is the inerrant, infallible word of God in ALL that it teaches and affirms, have a low doctrine of Scripture.  For him, and other theologians in the Church of the Nazarene such as Thomas Oord, those who reject biblical inerrancy are the ones who have a higher view and doctrine of Scripture!

Dr. Truesdale was my Greek New Testament professor at Eastern Nazarene College in three classes. Greek New Testament was my favorite subject at ENC, and he was an excellent teacher whom I greatly respected.  But I am afraid he is wrong in much of what he asserts here.  As I spent some time thinking on what approach I would respond, of which there were several, I received the following from my friend Allen Marsh.  It addresses one of the approaches I was contemplating for a rebuttal, which would deal with the historical aspects of the views of Wesley and fundamentalists.  Another approach would also be to deal with the question of whether the Bible is fully inerrant in ALL that it teaches.  Allen’s approach in his writing was solely to address historical accuracy, and here is what he wrote:

(by Allen Marsh)

 “Why Wesleyans Aren’t Fundamentalists” has much good information.  It also contains errors.

The very first sentence is opposite of fact—that fundamentalists have a low view of Scripture (inerrancy) and Wesleyans (certainly not all) have a high view (the Bible has errors).  To believe the Bible IS the Word of God is a high view while to believe the Bible only CONTAINS or BECOMES in certain situations the Word of God but contains errors is a low view.

According to the article, John Wesley, early Methodists, and the early Nazarenes had a low view of Scripture.  I will here argue for historical accuracy, not to prove inerrancy.

Wesley wrote:

“All Scripture is given by inspiration of God (consequently, all Scripture is infallibly true).”

“We know, ‘All Scripture is given by inspiration of God,’ and is therefore true and right concerning all things.”

“[I]f there be any mistakes in the Bible there may as well be a thousand. If there be one falsehood in that book, it did not come from the God of truth.”

“Will not the allowing there is any error in Scripture shake the authority of the whole?”

Here are two examples from Methodism:

Adam Clarke stated:

“Men may err, but the Scriptures cannot; for it is the Word of God himself, who can neither mistake, deceive, nor be deceived.”

Richard Watson (1781-1833), the first systematic theologian of Methodism, stated that the authority of scripture “secures the Scriptures from all error both as to the subjects spoken and the manner of expressing them.”

Following are a few examples regarding early Nazarenes and inerrancy:

Many of the early Nazarene leaders came out of the Methodist Church during the conflict in the early 1900’s referenced in the article. They stood unequivocally for biblical inerrancy.  E. P. Ellyson, in his Theological Compend, wrote, “The Holy Spirit knows all the truths of nature, and would not inspire an untruth.”  “Logically and morally we are as much bound by the geological writings of Moses as by the theological writings of Saint Paul.”

 

As late as 1948 Ross Price wrote in the Herald of Holiness, “Our Lord…assumed the absolute truth of the Scripture…. The Bible is correct astronomically, geologically, historically, medically, botanically, zoologically, meterologically, prophetically, and spiritually.” (29 Nov. 1948).

Not until the 1960’s did soteriological inerrancy become the Nazarene view in academic circles although it was first suggested in the 1930’s.  That view is taught in academic circles but not to the general public.  The adult Sunday school lessons for the Fall of 2010 taught Genesis 1-11 as historical, not fictional.  Try teaching soteriological inerrancy to the tribes of third-world countries.

For one thorough study of this, see “Eighty Years of Changing Definitions in the Church of the Nazarene” by Dr. Daryl McCarthy.

The above information reveals the fallacy of most of the article’s other arguments, but I want to speak to one more.

The author says, “God himself, not information about him, is the primary content of revelation.”  He says fundamentalists are concerned with facts about God while Wesleyans are concerned with relationship with God.  How can you know a person without knowing information about him?  You can’t.  The more you know about the person, the better you know him.

The author said that “not everything in the Bible is essential to God’s self-disclosure.”  But it is.  The Bible says He created the heavens—He is greater than that.  It discloses God’s power, wisdom, holiness, love, mercy, justice, creativity, organization, attention to detail, etc.  God is truth.  His written word is “God-breathed,” true in its entirety when understood as it was written. There are problems with translations and there are problems with interpretations, but that the Bible is inerrant is the historic Wesleyan and Nazarene position.

Dr. Gleason L. Archer said that “almost every problem in Scripture that has been discovered by man, from ancient times until now, has been dealt with in a completely satisfactory manner by the biblical text itself.”  And Dr. John Warwick Montgomery said, “I myself have never encountered an alleged contradiction in the Bible which could not be cleared up by the use of the original language of the Scriptures and/or by the use of accepted principles of literary and historical interpretation.” 

To be honest, those promoting soteriological inerrancy only should say they have changed from what our founders believed.

Additional Resources:

http://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/biblical-inerrancy/

http://www.fwponline.cc/v16n2/v16n2reasonera.html

http://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/inerrancy-and-wesleyanism/

http://www.fwponline.cc/arm_extend/Inerrancy_01.pdf