Wildgoose Festival: A Small Example Of What Is Wrong With The Church

“These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; 13 raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever. Jude 1:12-13

While I finish up my General Assembly summary report for next week, I remind you again of a recurring event that is a good illustration of the depravity being allowed with impunity within the leadership of the Church of the Nazarene.  I am talking about Wildgoose Festival, which is happening again in August.  I have written several times about it, and have sent my reports to the General Superintendents.  Not a word from them, and apparently, no action has been taken to distance the church from this festival.

How is the church connected to this Sodom and Gomorrah- style party?

The organizer of the festival is Mike King.  He is adjunct professor at Nazarene Theological Seminary, and is a top youth leader in the church as well, which is most troubling.  In this blog post, he talks proudly of his involvement with Wildgoose:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildgoosefestival/2012/03/board-president-mike-king-recounts-wild-gooses-journey/.  Mike King not only promotes this festival with impunity, but he is also one of the primary promoters of contemplative spirituality in the denomination.

Also involved again for the second straight year is Nazarene pastor Gabriel Salguerro, who is seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Tw8kM80RwNQ starting it 1:08, praising this pagan gathering celebrating anything but biblical Christianity.  Salguerro is involved with many endeavors that promote a radical, left wing and sometimes Marxist style philosophy, under the guise of a social justice supposedly driven by biblical principles.  For a Christian pastor to promote such a festival again shows the lack of leadership in the denomination from the top.  It’s just like a parent who looks the other way when their child starts getting involved in all sorts of decadent and harmful behavior, and the parent pretends that he does not notice.  Such is the leadership which has allowed this and many, many more unbiblical activities and teachings to go unchallenged.

In a report by Jeffrey Walton at his blog, he writes on how much even worst this year’s Wildgoose will become.  The push for creating “trans” inclusive communities has been added to the list of topics, along with the recurring themes of homosexuality, non-Christian religions and activities, and of course the all night parties.
http://juicyecumenism.com/2013/07/12/wild-goose-festival-migrates-through-turbulent-issues-of-transgenderism-intersex/

So Wildgoose is a little microcosm of the Church of the Nazarene’s lack of moral integrity and church discipline.  Just about anything can be done by just about any Nazarene leader, pastor, or layperson, and it will be okay with everyone.  However, please keep in mind there are exceptions, as listed below:

Beware:​

-If you dare to preach against the emergent church, you will be fired.

-If you dare to stand for the complete truth of Scripture, you may not get ordained.

-If you preach that homosexuality is sinful, you maybe asked to “tone it down.”

-If you dare to bring up concerns to your pastors, you just might get ostracized.

-If you dare to expose false teaching in the church, you will be labeled a hater.

-If you dare to say you believe in the Genesis account of creation, you might just get labeled an ignorant kook.


But, you have no worries at all:

-If you promote ungodly festivals.

-Or teach evolution to our youth.

-Or promote contemplative mysticism.

-Or send your youth on field trips to Roman Catholic Monasteries.

-Or promote LGBT groups, and brag about worshipping with openly homosexual pastors.

-Or teach that the Roman Catholic Church and the Nazarenes preach the same Gospel.

-Or join hands with the social justice crowd.

-Or use books by heretics instead of the Bible.

-Or invite Rob Bell and Leonard Sweet to speak to pastors.

Such is the state of the Church of the Nazarene today.  It’s not my father’s church that he knew years ago.

Related Articles:

http://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/2012/06/25/should-any-nazarene-leader-be-associated-with-wildgoose/

http://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/two-prominent-nazarene-leaders-promote-blasphemous-festival/

http://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/2011/06/29/mike-king-and-friends-leading-youth-to-spiritual-death/

http://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/are-the-watchmen-failing/

Should Any Nazarene Leader Be Associated With Wildgoose?

2 Corinthians 6:14-15: “Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?

Amos 3:3: “Can two walk together, unless they are agreed?”

Well, it’s over for now.  The gathering of apostates at Wildgoose Festival in North Carolina has ended.  The thirst for more however continues, and there will be another gathering in September.  This one will be WildGoose Festival West, and will be in Benton County, Oregon.  Apparently the demand has been so great that this second gathering may lead to perhaps even more yearly gatherings at various areas of the country.  Could the rising popularity of this be an indication of the movement and work of the Holy Spirit?

Okay, I seriously do not believe it is.  However, there are many Christians who look at numbers as something that is evidence of God’s approval, or the work of the Holy Spirit in changing people’s lives.  There are Christians who for instance are sure that a preacher who otherwise preaches the gospel faithfully must not be effective or successful, if no one responds to the gospel for a long time.  Others see “success” to always be measured by the number of those who rush to the altar and profess faith in Christ verbally, or when there are massive testimonies of instant healing.  We tend to forget that a preacher or pastor is to preach faithfully the word of God, and not worry about reaching some kind of quota every month.  That is what God requires of us, and nothing else.

Back to the Wildgoose Festival.  This is perhaps my fourth time I report on this, and I will continue to report on this as needed.  I will also continue to point out something which came to my attention, via James Scullin’s post on our CN FaceBook page the other day.  He quotes from the website:

 “We are a community creating a festival at the intersection of justice, spirituality and art. We take inspiration from many places, such as Greenbelt, Burning Man, the Iona Community, SXSW, and others. The festival is open to everyone; we don’t censor what can be said;”

He went on to summarize just part of what constititutes Wildgoose: “Green Belt into social justice, bBurning Man, self-expression, including nudity, Iona, ecumenism, SXSW, film and music.”  James, don’t forget the beer and wine tent parties as well; the speaking schedule of such notables as Brian McLaren, who led the opening prayer and words for each day; the appearance of an openly homosexual “Christian” artist (Jennifer Knapp); the pro-homosexual agenda of many of the speakers there; the doctrinally challenged Brian McLaren who somehow is one of the countries to 25 evangelicals.

But finally, a question was asked that is certainly worthy of answer, and I suggested that the General Superintendents would be more than capable of giving a definitive response:

How is organizer Mike King allowed near our youth and have a position at NTS?

It’s a fair question.  Remember also that the Rev. Gabriel Salguerro, a Nazarene pastor who is also the head of the radical National Assoc. of Latino Evangelical Coalition, has promoted this festival shamelessly in the past two years.

So we have Mike King, adjunct professor at our premiere seminary that prepares future pastors, who is heavily involved nationally in influencing Nazarene youth at conferences, seminars, and through books he writes and promotes; and we have a nationally influential Nazarene pastor who is in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens and other radical ideas, both involved with Wildgoose Festival, as I reported recently.

A few other reminders also is that two General Superintendents (Stan Toler and Jerry Porter) are on the Advisory Board for Rev. Salguerro’s organization, so they are obviously connected to him that way.  Nazarene Dr. Oliver Philips is also on that board as well.  And now, as I reported recently, all six General Superintendents have signed on with an immigration group that along with Rev Salguerro, is also pushing for favoring illegal aliens over law abiding citizens and legal residents!  In what other ways are these men connected, and are these connections having any kind of influence as to why the Generals seem to refuse to address this issue to anyone who inquires about it?

How much lower do we have to go, in the Church of the Nazarene, in order to… do what?  Get more people in the church?  Bring more money in?  To show how progressive and non-judgmental we are?  To embrace ecumenicalism as far as the universe can reach?  What is going on here?  Have we no shame anymore, that we cannot rebuke our leaders when they blatantly get involved with a world that is pretending to be Christian, but has no resemblance to true Christianity?

So, General Superintendents, is it possible you can address the first question, and the following questions, in any way?

1. If the Wildgoose Festival is good for Christians, then will you recommend as many Nazarenes as possible attend this festival?

2. If it is bad, why do you tolerate the participation and promotion of this festival by Mike King and Gabriel Salguerro?

3. How do you justify your association with an “evangelical” immigration group that clearly (at least to many of us) is comprised of those who have compromised the gospel message?

3. What is in store next for the Church of the Nazarene that will shock us?  Will it be a continued watering down of the biblical position on homosexual sin?

4. Is this Wildgoose Festival a reflection of what it means to be “missional?”

5. Will you ever give any clear and conclusive answers to any question that many Nazarenes are sending to you, as a result of seeing such widespread apostasy in the church?

Manny Silva

Here are just a few of those who participated in this sham of a “Christian” festival:

Two Prominent Nazarene Leaders Promote Blasphemous Festival

“What is the great danger in the Christian church today?  … The danger to the church today, whatever the denomination, from within, is the person who wears the cloth of Christ… and who stands behind the sacred desk, and who is unfaithful to the word of God.  That is the ultimate danger to the church.  The corrupt and apostate shepherds who infest our theological seminaries and our colleges, and fill our pulpits throughout the United States and Canada, and who know not God, do not believe the gospel of Jesus Christ, and will stand in the way of anybody that wants to preach it.   The cancer is within, and it eats away, and we don’t recognize it.”  The late Dr. Walter Martin

The Wildgoose Festival 2012, coming in June to North Carolina, is the second annual version in the United States of a festival that began in the United Kingdom.

I warned the General Superintendents last year about the same two Nazarene leaders who are organizing and promoting it.  They have not yet in three years said anything significant against this and many other unbiblical events that have plagued our denomination.  Yet, perhaps significantly, they may have quietly approved the ugly attack on many Nazarenes that was written by Rev. Kevin Ulmet in Holiness Today last month.  I believe that that article was perhaps an important shot across the bow to those Nazarenes who dare to speak out against spiritual atrocities that are occurring within our churches, universities and seminaries.  Here are just a few words from Wildgoose:

“We dream of a movement where everyone is welcome to participate.  We are intentionally building a space in which we invite everyone to value, respect and fully affirm people of any ethnicity, age, gender, gender expression, sexual identity, education, bodily condition, religious affiliation, or economic background, particularly the marginalized.  We are committed to fair trade, gift exchange, ecological sanity and economic inclusion. We strive for high standards of mutual respect, non-hierarchical leadership, and participative planning.”  (Source)

“I believe that the Wild Goose Festival is pregnant with potential to alter the face of Christianity in North America and change our culture’s view of what it means to be a person of faith, hope and love.”  (Mike King)

 

“Instead of Bible studies, there were labyrinth walks. Instead of praise-and-worship music, there was hymn-singing in a beer garden and a bluegrass liturgy presided over by a tattooed female Lutheran minister. Visitors were greeted with buckets of water in which to baptise themselves, and tubs of mud to remind them that “dust thou art”. (In Britain, the mud is usually underfoot.) Lecture topics ranged from sex trafficking and social justice to authority in the church and interfaith relations. Visitors could learn from Tom Prasada-Rao, a singer, how to chant “Om” and “Hallelujah Hare Krishna”, or hear Paul Fromberg, a pastor from San Francisco, talking about his 2005 wedding to another man. “God is changing the church through the bodies of gay men,” Mr Fromberg told a packed session on human sexuality. Also under discussion was “religious multiple belonging”—in other words, belonging to a clutch of different faiths at once.” (http://www.economist.com/node/18898389)

Wildgoose is NOT committed to anything approaching the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, and you will not find any real reference to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  It is a festival committed to spirituality which is not Christian; it is blasphemous, disobedient to Christ, and worldly.  This festival  is coming again June 21-24, in Shakori Hills, North Carolina.  I wrote about it in this post last year:  Mike King And Friends: Leading Youth To Spiritual Death.  An apt description of its philosophy would be: “anything is okay, whatever you believe.  We will not judge you in this place.  God’s grace will cover anything you do.”  You will not find the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ in this place.  You will not find the preaching of repentance from sin here because this event is the devil’s workshop.  But you will probably find plenty of beer and wine parties and the promotion of homosexuality as a “Christian” lifestyle.  You will find pro-tree life and pro-abortion, but no pro-child life here.  And you will find even the planned corruption of children in this celebration of worldliness.

Corrupt And Apostate Shepherds


Here is where you will find some of the corrupt and apostate shepherds Dr. Walter Martin has described,  preaching their false gospels of ecumenism, mysticism, emergent church garbage, embrace of homosexuality, universalism, and the replacement of the biblical Gospel with a radical humanistic social gospel.

The following two Nazarene leaders, who purport to wear the cloth of Christ, are part of this very shameful convocation:

Mike King: adjunct professor at Nazarene Theological Seminary.  He is the president and chairman of this festival.
(Read Mike King’s proud account of the first festival here).  King is also CEO of YouthFront, an organization that promotes contemplative spirituality by way of the preferred terminology of spiritual formation.  They are both the same thing.
And King is also taking part in a conference called Children, Youth, And A New Kind Of Christianity (May 7-10) in Washington D.C.  Some of the promoters of this event include the extreme and radical racist pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.  Also, emergent leaders such as Brian McLaren, Shane Claiborne, Tony Campolo, Samir Selmanovic, and Jim Wallis.  Mike King associates with these people who are unbiblical in their belief system, because he identifies with them!

Gabriel Salguerro: senior pastor of Lamb’s Church of the Nazarene in New York, a member of Sojourner’s, a “Christian” group founded by Jim Wallis which promotes a radical social justice agenda.  You will see and hear Rev. Salguerro in this promotional video (at the 1:07 mark) for Wildgoose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL81L6wmyt4.  Rev. Salguerro is also President of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition, a radical group that promotes amnesty for illegal aliens while ignoring the harm being done to citizens and legal non-citizens.  I also note that of the eight Advisory Committee members of this radical organization, two are Nazarene General Superintendents Stan Toler and Jerry Porter, and another is Nazarene Dr. Oliver Phillips, former Director of Mission Support in USA/Canada, and an ordained elder.  How radical are some of Salguerro’s views?  Read Open Letter To Gov. Jan Brewer on Sojourner’s blog which he wrote in opposition to Arizona’s immigration enforcement law.
And in this video on YouTube (Serious and Difficult Interfaith), note his interfaith philosophy which runs contrary to Scripture.

But just regarding Wildgoose festival, these two men are clearly standing in the way of preaching the true Gospel. They are yet again willing participants in an event celebrating not true Christianity, but a false interfaith spirituality.  Jude describes such men well: “These are the men who are hidden reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you without fear, caring for themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted;” Jude 1:12.  Yet they continue on to a second year of this utter foolishness and rebellion against the Lord, and what have our leaders said or done?  Is this part of the new diversity that all Nazarenes should embrace now?

Here’s the problem: there are too many others in the denomination who are complicit with these men, and who follow the same underlying ideology.  This is why they are tolerated, because those who are complicit in this, are guilty of all the other errors of the emerging church and contemplative crowd, so they cannot call their own out.  It would expose even more of their hypocrisy.  In my post from past year, I called out Mike King as a false teacher, and Rev. Salguerro is also in the same company.  They are promoting a false gospel.  Unless they repent, they will pay a high price someday in front of God.  Instead of heeding Romans 1:24, they continue to associate with those who teach contrary to the gospel, and that is no surprise, because they do the same.  The right thing for them to do is to turn in their credentials as ordained elders in the church.

And to those who allow this to continue, you might very well also pay a high penalty before God for not standing up against the wicked.

Why do our leaders seem to be tolerating all this and doing nothing about it?  This is the kind of thing that really burns me up, yet it is only the most extreme example of the downward slide a once solid holiness denomination is taking, all the while pretending that the church is doing great things.  

After last week’s post, a friend wrote me and said:

“You ask where our leaders are.  The way I see it is that NOT taking a stand IS TAKING A STAND.  Jesus’ comment was that if you’re not for me, you’re against me.  Some issues demand a decision.”

Manny Silva

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Part Two: The Lineup of Apostates at Wildgoose Festival 2012


Here in Part 2, I list just a sampling of this year’s lineup at Wildgoose.  The complete lineup is at their website.

Common Shared Ideologies:  The vast majority of speakers at Wildgoose are united in one thing: a disregard for the supreme authority of God’s word.  This is reflected mainly in their emphasis on anything but a Gospel centered theology.  You will not find the preaching of the Gospel of repentance from sin here.  Their shared “gospel” is one of inclusiveness, ecumenism, and non-judgmentalism.  What they will not teach is the biblical doctrine of separation, which instructs believers to not join hands with the world.  Scripture teaches us to be in the world, but not OF the world.  These people reject what Scripture teaches, and instead clamor for more and more of what they want to hear, of what will tickle their ears.  So the following short “bios” are short but accurate descriptions of what these people stand for.  They do not stand for the truth of God’s word; they stand for doctrines of demons and their own imaginations.  But don’t take my word for it; look at what they teach, and compare with the biblical Gospel.  See what is the genuine Gospel in Scripture, and then compare with their “gospel”, and determine if it is phony or not.  They speak much of spirituality; however, it is not Christian spirituality they exclusively speak of, but any kind of spirituality.  In fact, they despise what most of us recognize as orthodox Christianity.

Ideologies you will find here: Here you will find the following themes running through the ideologies and belief systems of these speakers:  emergent church thinking; social justice; environmental justice; pro-homosexuality as being compatible with the Christian lifestyle;  pro-abortion (they say pro-choice); interfaith or interspiritual philosophies; ecumenical philosophy; anti-capitalism; anti-fundamentalist Christian; proponents of mysticism and contemplative spirituality; paganists.

What you will NOT find here: Preaching of the whole council of God, including preaching of the need to repent from sin and turn away from it, and follow Christ and His doctrines in ALL that He and His disciples teach in Scripture.

Rev. Rita Nakashima Brock (website: http://savingparadise.net/authors/)

- Member of Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, a pro-choice (i.e. pro-abortion group) and interfaith organization (http://rcrc.org/).  It was formerly known as the Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights, which is more accurate.

- Founding Co-Director of Faith Voices for the Common Good.  Their purpose is: “to create a public awareness of the shared values of the country’s diverse religious organizations…”  Their board has included a Hindu, spiritual atheist, Unitarian Universalist.  The current board includes a Muslim member.

Brian McLaren

Pastor, and godfather of the emergent movement; likens the Cross to false advertising for God, is confused as to whether homosexuality is a sin or not, promotes contemplative mysticism, rejects biblical inerrancy.
Quote: “The Bible is not considered an accurate, absolute, authoritative, or authoritarian source but a book to be experienced and one experience can be as valid as any other can. Experience, dialogue, feelings, and conversations are equated with Scripture while certitude, authority, and doctrine are to be eschewed!  No doctrines are to be absolute and truth or doctrine must be considered only with personal experiences, traditions, historical leaders, etc. The Bible is not an answer book.”
Source: A New Kind of Christianity, p. 52 Published: 2001.

Jim Wallis

Liberal political activist, radical social justice proponent, uses religion to sell his agenda in the political arena.  Founder of Sojourner’s.  Spiritual advisor to President Obama.

Quote: “Being born again was not meant to be a private religious experience that is hard to communicate to others, but rather the prerequisite for joining a new and very public movement—the Jesus and kingdom of God movement. It is an invitation to a whole new form and way of living, a transformation as radical as a caterpillar becoming a butterfly. It is far more than a call to a new inner life, or a rescue operation for heaven.”
Source: The Great Awakening: Seven Ways To Change The World [New York: Harper Collins, 2008] p56 Published: .

Carl McColman

Author of “The Big Book of Christian Mysticism”, as well as books on Celtic spirituality. Spent several years as a Celtic pagan (neo-druid) before entering the Catholic church.  He is a blogger on contemplative spirituality.  He describes mysticism as Christianity’s best kept secret.

He quotes the writer Abhishiktananda, a Benedictine monk who dabbled in Hindu spirituality: “The life of prayer and contemplation is simply to realize God’s presence in the depth of our being, in the depth of every being, and at the same time beyond all beings, beyond all that is within and all that is without.”

Also he quotes theologian Carl Rahner: “the Christian of the future will be a mystic or will not exist at all.”

Quote: “In the history of Christian mysticism, again and again the contemplatives have been the ones who reach out beyond the boundaries of institutional religion to embrace the teachings of other faiths.”  (http://www.anamchara.com/contemplation/the-hidden-tradition-of-christian-mysticism/)

Shane Claiborne: Emergent leader, promotes contemplative mysticism.

Quote: “The time has come for a new kind of conversation, a new kind of Christianity, a new kind of revolution.”
Book: by Shane Claibourne entitled: Irresistible Revolution p. 29 Published: February 2006.

Cathleen Falsani

Director of New Media at Sojourner’s (Jim Wallis’s group); author of Sin Boldly: A Field Guide for Grace.  Promotes homosexuality in Christianity, as reported here: http://apprising.org/2011/01/14/gay-awakening-for-mainstream-evangelicalism-grows-closer/

Spencer Burke

Founder of the website, The Ooze.  Universalist “Christian.”

Quote: “I don’t believe any single religion owns heaven or God—even a religion that tries to include everyone. When I say I’m a universalist, what I really mean is that I don’t believe you have to convert to any particular religion to find God. As I see it, God finds us, and it has nothing to do with subscribing to any particular religious view… Universalism says that a theology of grace implies salvation for all, because if grace could be limited to some people and not to others,… it is in fact no grace at all…grace is bigger than any religion.” (A Heretic’s Guide To Eternity, pg 196, 197, 198)

Mike King

Adjunct professor at Nazarene Theological Seminary; president of YouthFront; chairman of Wildgoose Festival.  Promotes contemplative spirituality (spiritual formation) to youth.

Jennifer Knapp

“Christian” artist who “came out” in 2010 about her homosexuality and her lesbian relationship.  Actively promotes homosexuality as being compatible with Christian living.

Her bio says: “Under heavy scrutiny, Jennifer has unashamedly claimed her faith and her sexual orientation with astonishing straightforwardness and honesty.”

Johnathan Wilson-Hartgrove

Minister, and leader in the new monasticism movement; promotes emergent Christianity.  At the about page of his program, School For Conversion, you will find everything but a purpose to present the Gospel to unbelievers.

Short video at his bio page: http://jonathanwilsonhartgrove.com/bio/.  He never really explains what he found to be what “it’s all about.”  No testimony of salvation as is the case with most emergents.

Karla Yaconelli

Founding member of Wildgoose Board; took over for her late husband as CEO of Youth Specialities, a major group that promotes contemplative spirituality to youth.

Phylis Tickle

Author of The Great Emergence. Emergent leader.

Quote: “The new Christianity of the Great Emergence must discover some authority base or delivery system and/or governing agency of its own. It must formulate—and soon—something other than Luther’s Sola Scriptura which, although used so well by the Great Reformation originally, is now seen as hopelessly outmoded or insufficient …”
Book: by Phyllis Tickle entitled: The Great Emergence, pg 151 Published: 2008.

If you can stomach it, listen to her lengthy dialogue with Tony Jones and Lauren Winter (who has appeared at several Nazarene universities, including MVNU chapel this past March).  I will be compiling a short video highlight of this in the near future.  It is outrageous.

Ian Cron

Episcopal priest, speaker, author, wrote book on St Francis of Assisi and other books.

Quotes mystic monk Thomas Merton on his Facebook page: “Just remaining quietly in the presence of God, listening to Him, being attentive to Him, requires a lot of courage and know-how.” Merton”


Lineup of musicians (described on their site):

2012 Wild Goose music performances come in all shapes and sizes: from oblong-rockers David Crowder and Gungor to the world-beat/sacred harp adventurers Aimee Wilson and Aaron Strumpel! East and West are up to the text – Hindi-flavored Aradhna share  stages with urban-crunch talk-music pioneer, Listener! Hip hop served to collaborative perfection by Eugene IV next door to folk-protest notes-from-the-throats of Damion Suomi and the Minor Prophets and Michelle Shocked! Boy Howdy! Joy Ike’s sweet melodical-periodicals and Tim Coons’ reedy bleats express our collective hope-stories!  Parade-by-numbers with the crowd-sourced carols of Songs of Water,  Tracy Howe Wispelwey and Rev. Vince Anderson!  Siss-BOOM-BAW! All this and many more magic moments - AND compelling open mics and flashmob fiddlin’ will be common praxis, turning the Goose’s world on its rhythmic-drum-inflected, vocal-barnstorming-harmonized, get-up-and-dance axis.


Lineup of Speakers:

http://www.wildgoosefestival.org/the-2012-lineup/speakers-2/

Are The Watchmen Failing?

Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.  Ezekiel 33:12

This post is less about Mike King, or David Crowder, or any one individual that might be mentioned here.  This is a question about church leadership and its responsibilities, and also is a question about what is your responsibility as a Bible believing Christian.

I remind you of what an utter disgrace it was… this Wildgoose Festival that occurred recently in North Carolina, masquerading as a “Christian” festival.  What an absolute slap in the face to our Lord Jesus Christ this was, as dozens of apostates were featured at this abominable gathering, including one organizer and board chairman of this event, Mike King.  I also remind you that he is an adjunct professor at Nazarene Theological Seminary, executive editor of IMMERSE Youth Journal which is published by Nazarene Publishing House, is involved with Barefoot Ministries which is another arm of the NPH, and he is president of YouthFront, a group that promotes contemplative mysticism and emergent ideas.   And just recently he also was a presenter at the Nazarene Youth Congress in Kentucky.

Here is an excerpt from a recent report on the Wildgoose Festival that Mr. King helped organize:

“Instead of Bible studies, there were labyrinth walks. Instead of praise-and-worship music, there was hymn-singing in a beer garden and a bluegrass liturgy presided over by a tattooed female Lutheran minister. Visitors were greeted with buckets of water in which to baptise themselves, and tubs of mud to remind them that “dust thou art”. (In Britain, the mud is usually underfoot.) Lecture topics ranged from sex trafficking and social justice to authority in the church and interfaith relations. Visitors could learn from Tom Prasada-Rao, a singer, how to chant “Om” and “Hallelujah Hare Krishna”, or hear Paul Fromberg, a pastor from San Francisco, talking about his 2005 wedding to another man. “God is changing the church through the bodies of gay men,” Mr Fromberg told a packed session on human sexuality. Also under discussion was “religious multiple belonging”—in other words, belonging to a clutch of different faiths at once.”   (http://www.economist.com/node/18898389)

Again, what a disgrace this event was.  I have previously written and warned that one of the main targets of the apostate movement of emergent/emerging church is the youth.  In the Nazarene denomination, a primary influence in spreading these heresies is Mr. King, and yet he remains, and probably will remain, in any position that he is in today in the denomination, in spite of the damage he is doing to countless youth with his badly undiscerning associations and his blatantly open promotion of contemplative mysticism.   Why will he likely remain?  Perhaps it is because the leadership is asleep at the wheel?

 There are limited solutions to this problem.  The first is that the Lord will convict Mr. King of his error filled ways, and he repents of his emergent/mystical/ecumenical/gay affirming ideology whose source is Satan, not God.  However, those who have approved of his actions need the same kind of repentance.  Those who are responsible for allowing him to teach at NTS, along with others who are promoting mystical practices, should be questioned about their discernment.  An alternate solution is that perhaps a watchman of great influence or in a high leadership position (very high?) convinces him (and others at the seminary) to move on for the sake of our youth.  Or he could simply be relieved of his duties by those who are responsible for hiring him, yet, why would they if they also approve of his false teachings?  Do we have such a watchman?  Currently, the seminary does not even have a permanent president, but once he is hired, will he also continue the same unbiblical trends we are seeing develop at the seminary?

And so shortly after Wildgoose, King continued on to participate as a presenter at the Nazarene Youth Congress.  And the watchmen on the wall, if there are still any within our youth organizations today, missed at least one thing, if nothing else.  We have not had a complete report from NYC, but we hold our breaths in anticipation of what else was passed on to our youth besides what is glossed over in the program brochure.  I shudder to think of how wide Mr. King’s influence was at the NYC, but I prayed that no damage would come to any student because of his lack of discernment and support of a treasure trove of apostates from Wildgoose.

And now to at least one thing that was missed, and that is a featured singer at the Nazarene Youth Congress this past Saturday night illustrates the continuing compromises that are going on.  David Crowder is very popular in the Contemporary Christian Music world.  It seems that one of the problems today in Christianity is that as soon as a band labels itself “Christian”, and its songs are played on K-Luv or some other Christian oriented music station, and the songs sound and make us feel soooo good, that they are accepted without question.  But what is also wrong with many Christian contemporary groups and singers today is their eagerness to bring in worldly things and try to “consecrate” it to Jesus.  It is the same philosophy of Dan Boone, who claims that a pagan practice like a prayer labyrinth can be taken by Christians and be then sanctified for God’s purposes.  (In that case, let’s bring on the Santeria practice of sacrificing chickens on an altar and sanctify that for Jesus, because, what’s the difference?)

It seems too many of us, myself included, have become tolerant of just about any Christian band that sings really cool songs with a great beat that makes us feel good.  We start forgetting what music should be about and that is to give praise to HIM, not me!  And the influence of a Christian artist goes beyond his music, and that is where David Crowder shows his theology, as seen in this post by the writer at Defending Contending: David Crowder’s Crowded Theology.  Crowder wrote a book (Praise Habit), in which he quoted from the horrible paraphrased The Message Bible, and the back cover commentary is by emergent writer Donald Miller, of Blue Like Jazz fame.

Are our leaders letting these folks do anything, whatever they please, and turning aside so as not to cause “disunity” or hurt anyone’s feelings? After reading this review, I asked, did this slip by the discerning eyes of the watchmen on the wall?  Or, are there no watchmen on the wall within our youth organizations, and this is simply another example of compromise with anything and anyone that proclaims the name of Christ?

I’m afraid that it seems to be the latter. Such is the state of many denominations such as the Nazarene church, and nary a word from hardly any leader in the church.  Oh, some are speaking out.  And yes, I have been in touch with leaders, and former leaders, who are grieved in their hearts about what is happening.  Yet the continuing silence from most in leadership, and from most pastors, is amazing, because they have been receiving reports of these things for several years now.  They seem to forget the scriptural warnings about those who have seen and recognized evil, but fail to do anything about it.

Are the watchmen failing?

Mike King and Friends: Leading Youth To Spiritual Death

Today, my concluding comment is at the beginning.  It has to do with an event this past weekend called Wild Goose FestivalTwo other sources have also reported on this event:   The Christian Post: http://www.christianpost.com/news/left-leaning-wild-goose-festival-draws-ire-of-evangelicals-51560/,  USA Today:  http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-06-17-wild-goose-christian-festival_n.htm


I am asking Bible believing Nazarenes to join me to:
1. Call  for the immediate resignation of Mike King (and any other Nazarene involved with the Wild Goose Festival) from any association with the Nazarene denomination, and to remove himself as a speaker at the upcoming Nazarene Youth Congress;

2. Ask Nazarene Publishing House to stop distributing IMMERSE Youth Journal, of which King is executive director;

3. To write our General Superintendents (bgs@nazarene.org), who are charged with interpreting the Nazarene doctrines, and ask for an opinion as to why such associations are being allowed in the Church of the Nazarene, and to approve or disapprove of this type of festival.  How far will things get out of hand before our leaders say something- anything?

4. Ask the new incoming president of Nazarene Theological Seminary, Dr. David Busic, to do a thorough review of what is taught at the seminary, to determine whether courses such as Celtic Spirituality are in line with scripture and our Nazarene tradition, and to determine whether Mike King is fit to remain as an adjunct professor at the seminary.

5. Ask our leaders why was an ordained Nazarene elder from New York, Gabriel Salguerro, on the schedule of speakers at the Wildgoose Festival this past weekend?  Rev. Salguerro is on the board of Jim Wallis’s radical social justice organization, Sojourners At the least, it was a very serious error in judgment for Rev. Salguerro to speak at this event.

6. Plead with our national leadership to clean house and remove all who are promoting a false gospel to our youth and to our congregations.  If they don’t have the power to remove anyone, they can at the very least speak against what is going on, unless they themselves are complicit in all this.

The following is what led to my conclusion:

Mike King is an adjunct professor at Nazarene Theological Seminary, executive editor of IMMERSE Youth Journal which is published by Nazarene Publishing House, and president of YouthFront, a group that promotes contemplative mysticism and emergent ideas.  Mike King proudly promoted this “Christian” festival for youth.   He is also scheduled to be a presenter in a few weeks at the Nazarene Youth CongressAre any of your youth going?  Here is a post by ex-Nazarene about King and his work with IMMERSE: http://exnazarene.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/immerse-another-tool-by-barefoot-ministries-to-promote-the-leftistliberalemergent-agenda/.

Here is how the festival is described on the website:

“The Wild Goose is a Celtic metaphor for the Holy Spirit. We are followers of Jesus creating a festival of justice, spirituality, music and the arts. The festival is rooted in the Christian tradition and therefore open to all regardless of belief, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, denomination or religious affiliation.”

They are promoting Celtic spirituality- occultism really- as taught by Karla Yaconelli.  Tony Campolo, who was there also, promotes the same spirituality to our youth.  They are intentionally bringing in only secular music groups, who claim to be Christians.  Some promote yoga and other contemplative practices.  Many of their speakers approve of homosexuality as being okay with “Christians.”  According to National Catholic Reporter, “Wild Goose founder Gareth Higgins wants the festival to bring together people of faith to celebrate their diversity and their love of God in a non-judgmental setting.”  People of faith.   Not Christians, but people of faith- anything goes, ecumenism, tolerance of anything or anyone but Bible believing Christians.

Pastor Ken Silva of Apprising Ministries says: “The wise Christian will have nothing to do with these neo-Gnostic fools who’ve unbuckled themselves from the Word of God and have embarked upon their Wild Goose Chase of subjective experience.”

The late Dr. Walter Martin said this over 20 years ago: “What is the great danger in the Christian church today?  … The danger to the church today, whatever the denomination, from within, is the person who wears the cloth of Christ… and who stands behind the sacred desk, and who is unfaithful to the word of God.  That is the ultimate danger to the church.  The corrupt and apostate shepherds who infest our theological seminaries and our colleges, and fill our pulpits throughout the United States and Canada, and who know not God, do not believe the gospel of Jesus Christ, and will stand in the way of anybody that wants to preach it.

The cancer is within, and it eats away, and we don’t recognize it.”


Pastor Silva and Dr. Martin are so right.  Our leaders are either asleep, or have bought into the worst kind of apostasy, otherwise this kind of stuff would not be happening.  This was truly a Big Tent collection of radicals who pervert the gospel.  Is the future of our Nazarene youth found in places like this now?  If you do nothing, then get used to it.  Few seem to care what is going on, so let’s just get out of the way and let it all in.  Be pragmatic, be ecumenical, it’s all good.  To those who embrace this, be happy.  To those who have covered their eyes to this stuff and ignored my continued warnings, do you get upset at me when I tell you the truth?  Do you have a child who is going to Nazarene Youth Congress in a few weeks, or do you know a child in your church who is?

Mike King is the avenue in which unsound doctrine is being disseminated throughout the church.  It is evident in his promotion and leadership in The Wild Goose Festival and in his publishing privileges via the NPH.   Paul warned Timothy of this in 2 Timothy  4:3-4.  Paul wrote:  “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.”

Mike King is a false teacher, and he is directly associating himself and giving his approval to other false teachers who reject the truth of Scripture, who promote Celtic spirituality, contemplative mysticism, social justice in place of the true gospel, and homosexuality as acceptable within Christianity.  Therefore he is not representative of Christian or Nazarene ideals, and needs to leave, for the sake of our youth.  (However, let me make it clear, Mike King is far from the only problem in the denomination, he is only one example of why the church is heading fast towards apostasy).

I would not be surprised to find that every single participant shares the same “anything goes ecumenical spirit” of today’s heretical movement of the emergent church and social justice crowd.  And please understand that “feelings” and “personal experience” are important to these people, such as Jay Bakker, who ignores the teaching of scripture and goes with how he feeeeels.  “I feel” that it’s the right thing to do”, they say.  I “feel” that God would never let someone go to hell.  I “feel” that God spoke to me when I “experienced” the labyrinth.  I “felt” so good yesterday as I swayed to the music.  I feel that God is just a God of love (leaving out the justice aspect).  I feel, I feel, I feel.  Don’t you know that’s why we are in this mess now??

This Festival is more evidence that chances are good that your child or grandchild could be indoctrinated by one or more of these people, at one or more of these types of events. They will then come home to you someday and laugh in your face as you try to explain to them that you believe and trust the Bible completely.  They will laugh and say, “where were you when all this was happening?”  You never said a word, mom, dad, and now you are trying to tell me that you failed to teach me the truth?”  Only then might you realize that your child has just been led down the road to hell by the professors and cultural icons you so blindly trusted.

If you love someone you will tell them the truth, no matter how much it hurts.  It’s for their own good.  Because the truth that hurts will lead to life; the falsehoods and the cover-ups and ignoring the truth, could lead to death.

Spiritual death.  These people are doing just that, leading our youth to spiritual death.  Embrace it, or clearly reject it.
It will do you well to listen to this by the late Walter Martin, a great defender of the faith and of God’s word: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qduSN8G7-Xw&feature=player_embedded

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PART TWO: SOME OF THE APOSTATES FEATURED AT THE FESTIVAL.

Maybe these are the future role models for someone’s Nazarene child; but rest assured, not for my child.


Tony Campolo: Emergent leader, promotes social justice and ecumenism, Celtic spirituality.

Quote: “It seems to me that when we listen to the Muslim mystics as they talk about Jesus and their love for Jesus, I must say, it’s a lot closer to New Testament Christianity than a lot of the Christians that I hear. In other words if we are looking for common ground, can we find it in mystical spirituality, even if we cannot theologically agree, Can we pray together in such a way that we connect with a God that transcends our theological differences?”

Source: Evangelicals and Interfaith Cooperation, an interview with Shane Claiborne

Tony Campolo’s wife, Peggy will be there also.  Peggy Campolo is even more radical in her view on homosexuality, and sees nothing wrong with homsexual relationships.

Shane Claiborne: Emergent leader, promotes contemplative mysticism.

Quote: “The time has come for a new kind of conversation, a new kind of Christianity, a new kind of revolution.”
Book: by Shane Claibourne entitled: Irresistible Revolution p. 29 Published: February 2006.

Jim Wallis: Liberal political activist, radical social justice proponent, uses religion to sell his agenda in the political arena.
Quote: “Being born again was not meant to be a private religious experience that is hard to communicate to others, but rather the prerequisite for joining a new and very public movement—the Jesus and kingdom of God movement. It is an invitation to a whole new form and way of living, a transformation as radical as a caterpillar becoming a butterfly. It is far more than a call to a new inner life, or a rescue operation for heaven.”
Source: The Great Awakening: Seven Ways To Change The World [New York: Harper Collins, 2008] p56 Published: .

Richard Rohr: Franciscan friar, promotes contemplative prayer.  Holds to a pantheistic, universalistic doctrine.  Believes that much of the Bible is myth (like the Garden of Eden).  Promotes contemplative mysticism and liberal social justice work.

Quote: “The people who know God well—the mystics, the hermits, those who risk everything to find God—always meet a lover, not a dictator. God is never found to be an abusive father or a tyrannical mother, but always a lover who is more than we dared hope for. How different than the “account manager” that most people seem to worship. God is a lover who receives and forgives everything.
Book: by Richard Rohr entitled: Everything Belongs: The Gift of Contemplative Prayer [New York: Crossroad Publishing Company, 2003] p131. Published: 2003.

Phylis Tickle: Emergent leader.

Quote: “The new Christianity of the Great Emergence must discover some authority base or delivery system and/or governing agency of its own. It must formulate—and soon—something other than Luther’s Sola Scriptura which, although used so well by the Great Reformation originally, is now seen as hopelessly outmoded or insufficient
Book: by Phyllis Tickle entitled: The Great Emergence, pg 151 Published: 2008.

If you can stomach it, listen to her lengthy dialogue with Tony Jones and Lauren Winter (who has appeared at several Nazarene universities, including MVNU chapel this past March).  I will be compiling a short video highlight of this in the near future.  It is outrageous.

Brian McLaren: Pastor, and godfather of the emergent movement; likens the Cross to false advertising for God, is confused as to whether homosexuality is a sin or not, promotes contemplative mysticism, rejects biblical inerrancy.
Quote: “The Bible is not considered an accurate, absolute, authoritative, or authoritarian source but a book to be experienced and one experience can be as valid as any other can. Experience, dialogue, feelings, and conversations are equated with Scripture while certitude, authority, and doctrine are to be eschewed!  No doctrines are to be absolute and truth or doctrine must be considered only with personal experiences, traditions, historical leaders, etc. The Bible is not an answer book.”
Source: A New Kind of Christianity, p. 52 Published: 2001.

Pete Rollins: Emergent leader.
Quote: “the bible is kind of crazy coherent mess. it kind of doesn’t make sense.”

Source: http://apprising.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Chisham.png (Oct 18, 2010).  And in the following video, he has this nonsensical conversation with Phylis Tickle, who coined the phrase Emergence Christianity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sRsOhy_WWA

Nadia Bolz-Weber: Emergent leader, “pastor” of House For All Sinners and Saints.
Quote: “Last Sunday I had the honor of preaching at the rite of reception/re-installation of 7 GLBTQ Lutheran clergy in San Francisco. My denomination [ELCA] changed its policy in August, now allowing GLBTQ clergy to be in life-long, monogamous, publicly accountable same-sex relationships. We’ve taken the closets out of the church.”
Source was on a blog that has since been taken down. Dated: 26th August 2010.

Peterson Toscano: from his website: ”  A Theatrical Performance Activist , Thoughtfully and humorously exploring queer issues”

Jay Bakker: Gay affirming emergent leader, “outlaw preacher.”

Quote: “The more I follow grace, the more I’m drawn to him (God), the more I’m willing to stand up for people being persecuted … This sounds so churchy, but I felt like God spoke to my heart and said ‘(homosexuality) is not a sin’.
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Story?id=2711472&page=2  Dated: April 2009.

Andrew Marin: Activist for LGBT Causes.

Founder of The Marin Foundation, “a non-profit organization that works to build bridges between the LGBT community and the Church through scientific research, biblical and social education, and diverse community gatherings.”  What this group really does is advocate for the homosexual lifestyle and to integrate this lifestyle into the body of Christ.

Marin spoke at MVNU’s chapel, March 18, 2011. You can listen to the chapel podcast at this link: http://www.mvnu.edu/podcast/podlist.asp?StartItem=10.  Mr. Marin has a blog called Love Is An OrientationAnd, his site is linked from Mike King’s IMMERSE Journal, a magazine for Nazarene youth.
For a Christian refutation of Marin’s agenda, view this report; Michael Brown Corrects Andrew Marin

Samir Selmanovic: Author, key emergent leader, ordained Seventh Day Adventist pastor, AND promotes occultism.

This man blends Wiccan worship with Christianity!  Critique: God Is Father of All Religion

Doug Pagitt: Emergent leader, “pastor” of Solomon’s Porch in Minnesota. Pagitt does not believe in original sin, denies the doctrine of hell, promotes “Christian” yoga in his church, and is practically a declared universalist.

In the following video, he debates with John MacArthur on the use of yoga: Christians and Yoga.


Tony Jones: Emergent Leader, resident theologian at Solomon’s Porch.

Jones does not believe the scriptures are God’s inspired word, approves of homosexuality for Christians, promotes contemplative mysticism, and has spoken at Nazarene universities, including teaching a one week course at Mount Vernon Nazarene  He also spoke in 2007 at Nazarene Theological Seminary, and Mid-America Nazarene University.

In the following video, Jones and Doug Pagitt deliver their emergent propaganda: An Emergent Manifesto of Hope.

After the festival ended, Jones tweeted the following blasphemous statement:


If all of this information I just gave you is not enough to wake up genuine Bible believing Christians, I don’t know what else to say.

The entire schedule of speakers can be seen here at their website: http://www.wildgoosefestival.org/festival-info/festival-schedule/