Are The Watchmen Failing?

Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.  Ezekiel 33:12

This post is less about Mike King, or David Crowder, or any one individual that might be mentioned here.  This is a question about church leadership and its responsibilities, and also is a question about what is your responsibility as a Bible believing Christian.

I remind you of what an utter disgrace it was… this Wildgoose Festival that occurred recently in North Carolina, masquerading as a “Christian” festival.  What an absolute slap in the face to our Lord Jesus Christ this was, as dozens of apostates were featured at this abominable gathering, including one organizer and board chairman of this event, Mike King.  I also remind you that he is an adjunct professor at Nazarene Theological Seminary, executive editor of IMMERSE Youth Journal which is published by Nazarene Publishing House, is involved with Barefoot Ministries which is another arm of the NPH, and he is president of YouthFront, a group that promotes contemplative mysticism and emergent ideas.   And just recently he also was a presenter at the Nazarene Youth Congress in Kentucky.

Here is an excerpt from a recent report on the Wildgoose Festival that Mr. King helped organize:

“Instead of Bible studies, there were labyrinth walks. Instead of praise-and-worship music, there was hymn-singing in a beer garden and a bluegrass liturgy presided over by a tattooed female Lutheran minister. Visitors were greeted with buckets of water in which to baptise themselves, and tubs of mud to remind them that “dust thou art”. (In Britain, the mud is usually underfoot.) Lecture topics ranged from sex trafficking and social justice to authority in the church and interfaith relations. Visitors could learn from Tom Prasada-Rao, a singer, how to chant “Om” and “Hallelujah Hare Krishna”, or hear Paul Fromberg, a pastor from San Francisco, talking about his 2005 wedding to another man. “God is changing the church through the bodies of gay men,” Mr Fromberg told a packed session on human sexuality. Also under discussion was “religious multiple belonging”—in other words, belonging to a clutch of different faiths at once.”   (

Again, what a disgrace this event was.  I have previously written and warned that one of the main targets of the apostate movement of emergent/emerging church is the youth.  In the Nazarene denomination, a primary influence in spreading these heresies is Mr. King, and yet he remains, and probably will remain, in any position that he is in today in the denomination, in spite of the damage he is doing to countless youth with his badly undiscerning associations and his blatantly open promotion of contemplative mysticism.   Why will he likely remain?  Perhaps it is because the leadership is asleep at the wheel?

 There are limited solutions to this problem.  The first is that the Lord will convict Mr. King of his error filled ways, and he repents of his emergent/mystical/ecumenical/gay affirming ideology whose source is Satan, not God.  However, those who have approved of his actions need the same kind of repentance.  Those who are responsible for allowing him to teach at NTS, along with others who are promoting mystical practices, should be questioned about their discernment.  An alternate solution is that perhaps a watchman of great influence or in a high leadership position (very high?) convinces him (and others at the seminary) to move on for the sake of our youth.  Or he could simply be relieved of his duties by those who are responsible for hiring him, yet, why would they if they also approve of his false teachings?  Do we have such a watchman?  Currently, the seminary does not even have a permanent president, but once he is hired, will he also continue the same unbiblical trends we are seeing develop at the seminary?

And so shortly after Wildgoose, King continued on to participate as a presenter at the Nazarene Youth Congress.  And the watchmen on the wall, if there are still any within our youth organizations today, missed at least one thing, if nothing else.  We have not had a complete report from NYC, but we hold our breaths in anticipation of what else was passed on to our youth besides what is glossed over in the program brochure.  I shudder to think of how wide Mr. King’s influence was at the NYC, but I prayed that no damage would come to any student because of his lack of discernment and support of a treasure trove of apostates from Wildgoose.

And now to at least one thing that was missed, and that is a featured singer at the Nazarene Youth Congress this past Saturday night illustrates the continuing compromises that are going on.  David Crowder is very popular in the Contemporary Christian Music world.  It seems that one of the problems today in Christianity is that as soon as a band labels itself “Christian”, and its songs are played on K-Luv or some other Christian oriented music station, and the songs sound and make us feel soooo good, that they are accepted without question.  But what is also wrong with many Christian contemporary groups and singers today is their eagerness to bring in worldly things and try to “consecrate” it to Jesus.  It is the same philosophy of Dan Boone, who claims that a pagan practice like a prayer labyrinth can be taken by Christians and be then sanctified for God’s purposes.  (In that case, let’s bring on the Santeria practice of sacrificing chickens on an altar and sanctify that for Jesus, because, what’s the difference?)

It seems too many of us, myself included, have become tolerant of just about any Christian band that sings really cool songs with a great beat that makes us feel good.  We start forgetting what music should be about and that is to give praise to HIM, not me!  And the influence of a Christian artist goes beyond his music, and that is where David Crowder shows his theology, as seen in this post by the writer at Defending Contending: David Crowder’s Crowded Theology.  Crowder wrote a book (Praise Habit), in which he quoted from the horrible paraphrased The Message Bible, and the back cover commentary is by emergent writer Donald Miller, of Blue Like Jazz fame.

Are our leaders letting these folks do anything, whatever they please, and turning aside so as not to cause “disunity” or hurt anyone’s feelings? After reading this review, I asked, did this slip by the discerning eyes of the watchmen on the wall?  Or, are there no watchmen on the wall within our youth organizations, and this is simply another example of compromise with anything and anyone that proclaims the name of Christ?

I’m afraid that it seems to be the latter. Such is the state of many denominations such as the Nazarene church, and nary a word from hardly any leader in the church.  Oh, some are speaking out.  And yes, I have been in touch with leaders, and former leaders, who are grieved in their hearts about what is happening.  Yet the continuing silence from most in leadership, and from most pastors, is amazing, because they have been receiving reports of these things for several years now.  They seem to forget the scriptural warnings about those who have seen and recognized evil, but fail to do anything about it.

Are the watchmen failing?

6 responses to “Are The Watchmen Failing?

  1. A watchman who does not sound the warning at the approach of the enemy, has abandoned his post and has joined the enemy!

  2. The so-called watchmen have apparently abandoned their posts! This heresy/apostasy has crept in everywhere. We had to leave our Nazarene church in PA 6 months ago because this stuff was oozing from every nook and cranny of our church. Our senior Pastor kept telling us “There is no emergent church”. He and many others are spending too much time reading books of men that mix Christianity with philosophies of fallible men instead of reading from the holy inerrant living Word of God. They are preaching/teaching a feel-good gospel and making Jesus out to be lukewarm like they are. Thanks be to God that He led our family to a church that preaches the living water and bread of life (the sole Word of God) where we were not only spiritually refreshed and strengthened, but warned (just as in the Bible) about the emergent church and its heresy. The Holy Spirit opened our eyes to all of this and now we are seeing it sliding in amongst us everywhere. We just noticed that the “watchmen” for Compassion International Ministries have thrown their discernment out of the window, as well. They are hosting a Global Summit in August featuring mostly well-known emergent and purpose driven speakers. I fear for the souls of these men and women when Jesus returns. Lord help us all to stay alert and guarded to not fall prey to these wolves in sheep’s clothing and to be bold and courageous to take over as watchmen when these men fall from their posts. We must remember that we are in the Lord’s Army indeed and we must diligently and tirelessly blow the horn to warn/alert the saints of this dangerous false teaching. We may lose a lot of comfort and popularity and even church friends and family, as well. But Jesus told us that if we stand for Him that this would happen.

  3. Having served in the military, I know from first hand experience as others who have served know, that guard duty or being a watchman is lonely duty and the hours can be long and tiring. Each guard had to memorize their branch of service “General Orders” that was tailored to their duty. These orders were meant to cover any possible scenario a sentry might encounter (just as the Bible is the Christians General Orders). Secondly they were expected to remember them throughout their length of service (as we should the Bible). Should we expect less from our pastors as God’s appointed watchman over His flock.

    Here are a couple of examples of what a guard had to learn and obey. Should we expect less from our BGS or pastors. (1) “To take charge of this post and all government property in view.” When you are the sentry, you are in charge, meaning no one regardless of rank can overrule your authority in carrying out your orders. (2) “To walk my post in a military manner, keeping always on alert and observing everything that takes place within sight or hearing.” Along with being alert, it also means do not be tempted to hide from the rain or cold in foul weather. (5) “To quit my post only when properly relieved.” To sleep on guard or leave without being properly relieved is a court martial offense and can result in serious penalty.

    Paul uses the analogy of a soldier in his letter to Timothy regarding endurance of hardships. 2 Timothy [2:3-4] “You therefore must endure hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No one engages in warfare entangles himself with the affairs of this life that he may please him who enlists him as a soldier.” The deception by many today, as pointed out, is the refusal to acknowledge that the emergent church with all it’s heresy is alive and well and is gaining new followers.

    The greatest danger we are finding it harder to know who is a true soldier and who is not and the lack of trust among our leadership. If our leadership would exercise the elected authority of their office as the centurion recorded in Matthew I believe they would have the same approval of Christ as the centurion. Matthew [8:9-10] “For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me. And I say to this one, ‘Go’ and he goes; and to another, ‘Come,’ and he comes; and to my servant, Do this,’ and he does it. When Jesus heard it, He marveled, and said to those who followed, ‘Assuredly I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel.”

  4. Manny,

    I should add one more. Number 8. “To give the alarm in case of fire or disorder.” This is a straightforward and obvious command with an exception. The fire or disorder may be a deliberate distraction to keep from observing a planned subversive activity, such as we are seeing in the Church today. Besides sounding the alarm the sentry’s duty is to report what is amiss.

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