A New General Superintendent: Cause For Celebration, Or Concern?

After many rounds of voting, the Church of the Nazarene has elected the first of two general Superintendents that are needed to replace two retiring Generals.  His name is David Busic.

Dr. David Busic, at the time of his election, was the president of Nazarene Theological Seminary, and professor of Preaching and Pastoral Theology.  He has an impressive resume, and seems like a nice guy.  But let us consider some issues that may be of great concern to many Christians.

Concern #1: Emergent Connection or Lack Of Discernment?

At his inaugural address, Dr. Busic made many references and quotes of Phylis Tickle, a major leader in the emergent church movement, of which she has coined the phrase “the great emergence.”  Tickle promotes contemplative spirituality.  Phylis Tickle likens heretic Brian McLaren to Martin Luther who helped bring about the Reformation.  She is probably correct, but this new current reformation is not a good thing.  Tickle receives high praise from emergent heretic Doug Pagitt, calling her “the best friend the emergent movement could ever have.”  Tickle is currently a Senior Fellow of Cathedral College of the Washington National Cathedral, which has a heavily interfaith message.

Quote: “Washington National Cathedral is a church for national purposes called to embody God’s love and to welcome people of all faiths and perspectives. A unique blend of the spiritual and the civic, this Episcopal Cathedral is a voice for generous-spirited Christianity and a catalyst for reconciliation and interfaith dialogue to promote respect and understanding. We invite all people to share in our commitment to create a more hopeful and just world.”

The Cathedral College also is known for its heavy promotion of all forms of contemplative prayer: centering prayer, silence, stillness.

Tickle is also on the editorial board of explorefaith.org, and the recommended spiritual experts on the site are a veritable who’s who of “Christian” mystics and non-Christian gurus such as Guru Ram Dass, Buddhist Master Thich Nhat Hahn, the Sufi Muslim Rumi.

Finally, I give you a dubious quote from her book The Great Emergence:

The new Christianity of the Great Emergence must discover some authority base or delivery system and/or governing agency of its own. It must formulate—and soon—something other than Luther’s Sola Scriptura which, although used so well by the Great Reformation originally, is now seen as hopelessly outmoded or insufficient …(Phyllis Tickle, The Great Emergence, pg. 151)

Imagine that Luther’s Sola Scriptura, so critical within the Reformation movement, of which many left the persecution of the Catholic Church, some under pain of death, is no longer relevant according to Phylis Tickle.  What does this say of her regard for God’s word?  In fact, Phylis Tickle does not believe that the entire Bible is God’s word.

Conclusion: Why would a learned man such as David Busic want anything to do with Phylis Tickle, even if just to quote her and speak highly of her in his messages?  If a well respected man quotes someone favorably and praises them, would not most Bible believing Christians think that this person is a good source for them to go to?  I would like to find out what Dr. David Busic really thinks of Phylis Tickle, in the light of all the heretical things that she stands for.  Is it really wise that a church has just elected a General Superintendent who at the very least, seems to have some really impaired judgment and discernment?

Interfaith Connection?  Or Simply Carelessness?

The following is an excerpt from an email I wrote to Dr. Busic in 2011.  The entire article can be read here: https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/does-nazarene-theological-seminary-support-the-interfaith-movement/


Dear Dr. Busic,

Congratulations on your appointment as President of NTS.  It is my prayer that God will guide you in leading NTS in upholding biblical truth at the school.  I and other Nazarenes have had concerns in the past regarding some things sponsored by, promoted by, or taught at the seminary.

I was concerned about something I ran into the other day, and wondering if you were aware of it. At the CRES website, the Seminary is listed favorably as a recommended institution friendly to the CRES organization.  My concern is that it is an interfaith group that works closely with practically any kind of religion in the world.

Here is the link to the site where it mentions NTS favorably:  http://www.cres.org/pubs/KCInterfaithOps.htm

On their vision statement page, they say this: “CRES values the contribution of each distinctive faith in healing the crises of our age — and finds it important to honor and preserve their distinctions. “These faiths include: Buddhists, Muslims, Native American religions, Hindu, Sufi, Unitarian Universalists, Taoism, Confucianism, Wiccans, and Zoroastrians!

They also say: “CRES envisions the greater Kansas City area as a model community honoring interfaith relationships where interfaith relationships are honored as a way of deepening one’s own tradition and spirituality, and
where the wisdom of the many religions successfully addresses the environmental,  personal, and social crises of our often fragmented, desacralized world.

Does NTS have any kind of real connection with CRES?  If so, on what basis?  And if not, would it not be prudent to ask this group to remove any reference to NTS as a good resource?  If this is not the type of group NTS wants to associate with, that would certainly remove any appearance of an endorsement of this organization.  If this is the kind of group that NTS wants to associate with, then I humbly will say that it would be a serious problem that all Nazarenes should be aware of.

I did not receive any response from Dr. Busic.

Does the Church of the Nazarene approve of the idea of working with interfaith groups on a regular basis?  Does not the word of God speak against that?  It is written in 2 Cor. 6:14-17:
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

It is clear to me, a non-seminary educated man whose father always wanted him to be a pastor, that this scripture passage alone answers the question.  We are not be joining ourselves with those who are pagan and do not preach the Gospel of Christ.  And if these pagans are recommending us favorably, as if we also are favorable to them, it would do us good to have no connection at all with them, and no hint of any kind that we are aligned with their ungodly agenda.

There is only one right thing to do, and the president of NTS has not done it yet.  I call on him to do the right thing, remove the connection with this ungodly group, and make it clear that we do not stand with them in any way, no matter what “good” causes they may be involved in.

Conclusion: Is this a matter of discernment?  Is this a matter of lack of knowledge?  Dr. Busic never answered me.  Perhaps others can bring this egregious connection to his attention, and he will do the right thing.  If not, then we have a serious concern on our hands, with a man who has just been chosen to the highest office of a denomination of over 2 million people.  To be favorably and knowingly linked to such a group, which cannot even be called a Christian organization, is a clear indication of lack of discernment, or an indication of solidarity with their ideas.  Either way, it not good for the Church of the Nazarene.
We have elected David Busic.  The question is, was that the right decision?

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As of today, NTS is still listed favorably at the CRES site:

CRES note on NTS


7 responses to “A New General Superintendent: Cause For Celebration, Or Concern?

  1. I actually sat through Davids class on “Is Jesus The Only Way.” And thought is was pretty solid. David did proclaim that Jesus was the only way. Keep in mind I knew nothing about David. I would be very concerned about Interfaith alliances and most of all the new age plus the earth fairygodmother of the Emergent Church Phyilis Tickle. I have no problem with having friends with people from other religions. But I would not meet with them ala Rick Warren to solve the worlds problem. The only major problem is a sin problem in the world. And Jesus alone is the only solution to that problem

  2. Dear Manny, I am disappointed to hear that Dr. Busic did not reply to you. I wonder if his attitude was one of anger or gratitude. We should be thankful for your insightful contributions. You are doing a great job for Christ and our leaders should listen, if you are wrong, then they should point that out, but if you are right, they need to listen and do the right thing. Silence and indifference is unacceptable.


  3. Dear Manny,
    I was first exposed to the Church of the Nazarene when my wife and I, with our baby son, moved to Orlando Florida from northern New York in 1977. In that very first service I was amazed as the pastor, M.G, Burnsed, rose to his feet and began to preach the word with such power and anointing. My wife and I watched as he declared the truth, told of the darkness of sin, the hope of forgiveness, and then tenderly drew the net in and dozens of people young and old flocked to the altar to give their hearts to Christ, my wife and I included!

    It was under his ministry I first heard the wonderful message of entire sanctification that I presently experience and enjoy to this day. As you can understand I love the church of the Nazarene and I owe so much to her.

    I have been watching this evening’s session and my heart is heavy as I sense the apologetic attitude and hesitancy of our leaders to take a clear and certain stand on the moral issues of our day. Everyday more and more of our children are under attack by the homosexual agenda and we have decided to STUDY it more? Our kids need us NOW! I wonder where the Elijah’s are tonight that will stand and declare the whole truth without apology.

    As I mentioned, I love our great Church but I’m not sure I love her as much as you do. I want to thank you for your faithfulness to God and to the Church of the Nazarene. From some of the reports I have read, you have been scorned , dismissed, laughed at and ridiculed for sounding the trumpet alarm for us all. I want you to know I am praying for you that our loving Lord will bless and keep you in His strength in the days to come.

    My ministry has afforded me many opportunities to preach and lead many to Christ since that first service in Orlando, Florida in 1977. I believe it is time for many more of us to stand and declare the truth and love this great Church more than ourselves.

    I must mention the discussion tonight regarding the issue of social drinking. When the lady at mic #10 stood and spoke so eloquently and passionately of the danger of alcohol and easing our stand on the issue, I was moved to tears. It is unfortunate that issue also was postponed for “clarification”.
    May God help us all.
    Many blessings to you.

  4. Praise the Lord! Dan Boone withdrew his name for ballot consideration at General Assembly!

  5. Thanks brother Steve for your comments and your concern for the church. For your testimony as well. We need to keep more preachers like you circulating in the church and preaching the truth.

  6. Amazing Facts: “Old Navy” doing ads on your site is ironic in two ways: (1.) Old Navy” is a corporation that is openly supportive of a pro-homosexual lifestyle. (2.) It is truly ironic that they are so flush with advertising dollars that they are even willing to support the website of those who oppose the LGBT lifestyle. … (3.) It presents a genuine and difficult conundrum of whether or not to continue accepting the financial aid the homosexual community?
    I do not question the sincerity and correctness of Manny Silva’s opposition to the apostasy that has taken place in the CotN.
    I wonder what Old Navy’s motives and purposes are in this ploy?

  7. Mike, i did not even notice that! I will have to check this out. I have never noticed ads on the blog before.

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