Update on Wednesday, June 28
I have received enough information that leaves in doubt the accuracy of the FaceBook post by Andy McGee that was reported by me. A pastor, Chet Todd, has confirmed to me that he spoke with Andy shortly after that posting, and testified to me that Andy was upset that the original question to him was edited to make it look like it was something that was not. Andy then proceeded to delete his answer. I am accepting Chet’s testimony on this, and will post completely as Andy wishes to, or leave it here with a this explanation for others who have read this sin the past to see.
In all my nearly 400 articles, I have never had to retract something, other than minor corrections of information. But when it cannot be clearly shown to be true without a doubt, I will correct what needs to be corrected. (This in no way changes my opposition to the ministry of the Love Wins:LBGT group and how Andy McGee is promoting his positions)
The Love Wins:LGBT group operates under the auspices of the Trinity Family MidTown Church of the Nazarene. They have had a presence at the General Assembly since at least 2013, where they have presented a workshop about their “ministry” to the LGBT community, including a booth last week displaying their many colors.
In a stunning moment of candor, the group responded to a question on a FaceBook post, which asked about their intentions. The text is shown here for clarity, and the original post is also shown.
Is it your hope that the Church of the Nazarene will eventually become a welcoming church (and rid of language such as “perversion” when referring to gender identity)? Are you pushing for having open and affirming stances for Nazarene congregations?
That’s the goal. We hope that the church will welcome ALL in. ALL.
I’ll let you come to your own conclusions.
Update on Tuesday, June 27: In the spirit of fairness
Andy McGee has disagreed with what I posted, and he says that it is “fake news”. Andy believes that the question was edited after Andy responded, and therefore distorted the meaning of his answer. I will honestly say that I am not sure whether I accept that explanation. I am doing some research to verify some other things about this situation, now that Andy has contradicted what looks like something obvious. I have my own questions in response:
1. Andy, why did you not respond with an immediate refutation of the person who asked the question, instead of simply deleted your answer?
2. Why would someone who himself has the LGBT colors in his own profile (an apparent ally), want to trick Andy with something like that?
There are many, many questions that, for me and many others, have not been fully answered by Andy and Love Wins:LGBT about their ministry. I continue to seek those clear answers from them. I will be writing a post soon that will address the LGBT / homosexuality issue again, not only with regards to Andy’s group, but the entire denomination. In all this, I will say that not once have I been angry at Andy personally, nor do I dislike him personally in any way. That is not me, regardless of what others may say about me. I may sound harsh at times, but that harshness is always directed at the things that are being promoted in the Church of the Nazarene, or at the behavior of a person- and are intended to hopefully correct anyone who is in error- according to Scripture, not according to Manny Silva.