What Will happen Now That Same Sex Marriage Has Been Approved Nationwide?

One of the books in my fairly small library is written by the late Robert Bork, a former federal judge, lawyer and conservative scholar with a brilliant mind whose nomination for the U.S. Supreme Court in 1987 was de-railed by the liberal left in his confirmation hearings. Having read many of his writings, I can see that if he had been appointed to the highest court, that we would have today one of the most outstanding constitutional minds ever to be on the Supreme Court. In his book called Slouching Towards Gomorrah, he offers us a view of a culture in decline; a nation whose very foundation is crumbling due to the serious moral crisis that it is going through. The will to resist the path that liberalism and egalitarianism is taking us is our only hope, according to an afterword he wrote in his last edition. How prophetic was he?

On Friday, June 26, the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 5-4 ruling, wrote more law, instead of performing their constitutional duty of interpreting the law and leaving such matters to the states. Never mind that they also ignored God’s natural law and decided to become the supreme arbiters of what is moral. Today, another step towards the eventual and complete moral destruction of the nation was taken. It also is a further step closer to God’s judgment on this country. The decision declares that homosexuals are free to “marry” in any of the 50 states, including the 14 which now forbid homosexual marriage. This result was not surprising. I am certain Robert Bork would never have voted yes for this ruling.

Also not surprising was a statement by the professing Christian president of the United States, Barack Obama, who said in an eight minute speech that this decision “will strengthen all our communities” and “is a victory for America.” This is the same Obama whose belief (while running for office) was that he believed that marriage was strictly between a man and a woman. This man who professes to be a Christian, has now once again rejected God’s law in favor of man’s law. But we have more to be concerned about than just one man’s unbiblical thinking, although he has tremendous influence whenever he speaks.

This is the path to Sodom and Gomorrah American-style. I had some thoughts about this decision when I first heard it. I asked myself, what will this lead to? Many share the same thoughts that I do, that this will lead not only to further moral decline, but also to increasing persecution of Christians, simply for speaking the truth or for trying to live their lives by their Christian conscience. We are already targets of the radicals and liberals who want to force not only acceptance, but they also seek complete and blanket approval, and even celebration, of their perverted and sinful behavior. We will now become even bigger targets, perhaps even at the risk of losing our jobs or businesses, because it does not stop with this. The “right” to marry will not be enough for the “tolerant ones.”

Not only that, but we will see further collapse of the Christian evangelical churches as they cross the line from biblical truth, to compromise and affirmation of homosexual “Christians.” It will come. This will be even worse than persecution from the outside. For a more complete treatise on some of the things that will most likely happen, see David Cloud’s article (What Rights Will Others Lose When Homosexuals Gain Their Rights?).

Mr. Obama also said today that “shifts in hearts and minds is possible.” That’s the problem, you see, in the Christian church. Many Christians are wrongly shifting their hearts and minds towards a rejection of God’s law, sometimes just because their child or grandchild has declared to be homosexual! We cannot shift away from the unchanging word of God! Yet, out of sympathy perhaps for the homosexual and their “loving and committed relationships”, many Christians have become “gay-affirming”, and have lost the desire to plainly show a sinner that sin, no matter what kind, will lead a person to hell.

Finally, it has been a long time since I gave any kind of positive comment regarding the Nazarene Board of General Superintendents. If they are reading this, then I say thank you for quickly making a statement that is unambiguous and biblically solid. It will draw severe criticism from the radicals who want full acceptance and approval by the church, but it had to be said. Their statement can be read here. That being said, they still have much to do to stop the influx of emergent ideology and other false teachings in the church, including the infiltration of the homosexual agenda in our own churches and colleges.

So I posed my question on both the Concerned Nazarenes Facebook page, and Concerned Christians as well. Below are responses from several Christians (Names withheld because the group is a closed group). Hopefully these thoughts will make some of us ponder what is to come down the road. May God help us to stand firm in our faith, to not compromise in any way what He has clearly taught in Scripture.


Question: What will this Lead To Now?

“One by one, the moral lines in our nation have been crossed, or will soon be crossed. The relativism and lack of moral accountability espoused, taught by our educational institutions, and increasingly embraced by the current generation means that there is no basis for truth or retaining moral boundaries. What’s worse is the tolerance demanded by godless society, is increasingly not extended or granted to those who follow Christ. Christians are the only ones who it is acceptable to harass, marginalize, and discriminate against. It will be increasingly so. The persecution of Christians is just beginning and we know it will get worse. We should not be surprised, as the Bible talks of the last days as being increasingly wicked, and “as in the days of Noah”. Yet, we are not to fear! Hold fast to God’s Word in your hearts, “Do not fear for I am with you, do not be dismayed for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you. I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.” Be bold and courageous for the Lord while he gives you breath, and fear no man. Our future is in Heaven!”

“Those who oppose will be labeled as hate-mongers and bigots. They will be let go from jobs, churches will be forced to recognize same-sex marriages or they will lose their 501C-3. Pastors who preach the Bible will be charged with hate speech and will serve prison time.”

“This is definitely not the end, it is only the beginning of something even more evil. This is a great gateway for demons to be unleashed on the US, but I believe it is also a poke in the eye of conservative religiosity in order to stir them into a revolt so that the government can justify committing troops against it’s citizens.”

“It’s a sad day. We call good evil and evil good.”

“Instead of closet sins, they will be open in front of everyone. It would be illogical to assume that it hasn’t been going on. So now it will become something very public and in your face. The biggest issue to me is the freedom of speech.”

“The issue for “gay Marriage” has never been a right to sharing as partners, i.e medical insurance. They already had that right. The issue was to push their agenda to pervert marriage so that it no longer holds a sacred vow. A while back I read a book called “The Criminalization of Christianity.” This has been the homosexual agenda since the 1980’s. They have been setting people in places of importance to their cause and slowly infiltrating into the mainstream the idea that being gay is not a sin and is actually just another lifestyle. I do not see “gay marriages” lasting and as a matter of fact in the places where it was already legalized they are already seeing them in divorce courts. My heartache is for the innocent children that will be brought into this perverted life style. At this point, I believe that there is no turning back. The judgment of God is coming soon.”

I am wondering how this will affect the church. Will pastors be given the ultimatum to perform gay wedding ceremonies or have the doors to their churches shut?
I thought to myself-well, they could just make a rule that they will only do weddings for members, but technically, someone could come in single, join the church, then later ask the pastor to marry them to their gay partner. I am sure someone would do it just to spite the churches. It’s a scary day for sure. I also don’t think God is going to let this go unpunished.

There will definitely be a day of accountability – or God’s Word isn’t true (and we know it is!). We’re in for some rough days ahead. I HOPE and PRAY that sinners recognize the reasons for judgment. We, as Christians, will have to trust God to help and protect us, according to His will.

Today is a temporary victory for those who follow after their own belly, and stand in judgment over God. Psalm 2 …..comes to mind:

Why do the nations conspire
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth rise up
and the rulers band together
against the Lord and against his anointed, saying,
“Let us break their chains
and throw off their shackles.”
The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
the Lord scoffs at them.

The humanists are celebrating their perceived victory over God’s Word..
Trim your lamps.”


Isaiah 5:20 “Woe unto them that call evil good and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”

So…God has told us in His word what is good concerning sodomy and what is evil concerning sodomy, and the United States of America has told God, once again, that He means nothing to us and we will not listen to His word. We have told Him we do not want Him in our schools. We have told Him we do not want Him in our wombs. 57 million dead babies will testify in heaven as to what a terrible decision that was. We have now told Him that we do not want Him in our marriages. We have dared Him to do something about it. We have, once again, decided to spit in His face. This time, though, we have done it by siding with a community (the sodomites) whose only goal in history has been to openly rebel against God with filthy and prideful displays of their sexual perversions (please see any PRIDE parade), and dominate and abuse any weaker people (see Genesis 19 and Judges 19 and ask any Christian cake bakers/photographers in our day and age). Please realize that as a Bible believing Christian, now that the US has approved this abomination, if you stand on the word of God and declare this as the wicked sin it is, you WILL be persecuted. They will come after the churches as well, pushing for full acceptance of their lifestyle by all of them, and I encourage you to get out of any church that compromises on this issue. Watch the public school systems as well. There will be a tremendous push for the children to be exposed to it more and more. It’s already happening.

The United States is gone. Welcome to the United Sodom of Gomorrica.


Pastors Stand Against Same Sex Marriage In Rhode Island

Although there are 30 states that have constitutional bans on same sex marriage, 2012 was a big year for proponents who are pushing for “marriage equality.”  In the 2012 elections, Maryland, Washington, and Maine passed same sex marriage laws, with Maine being the first done through popular vote.  They joined seven other states that already allowed same sex marriages: Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, Washington D.C.  Several other states recognize civil unions.  (Minnesota defeated a constitutional amendment to ban same sex marriage, so that was a victory for that lobby.   President Obama, a professing Christian, supports same sex marriage, as does his vice-president Joe Biden.  Obama also issued an executive order which has repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in the military, allowing homosexual soldiers to openly serve in the armed services.

This is only one indicator of crumbling moral values in America.  What disturbs me most however is the trend in the “evangelical Christian” churches to either support same sex marriage, or become silent over the issue.  I was struck recently by the news that Louis Giglio, who was scheduled to do the benediction at President Obama’s inauguration, backed out when it was reported that several years ago he preached against same sex marriage.  Here is what he said then:

“We must lovingly but firmly respond to the aggressive agenda of not all, but of many in the homosexual community. … Underneath this issue is a very powerful and aggressive moment. That movement is not a benevolent movement, it is a movement to seize by any means necessary the feeling and the mood of the day, to the point where the homosexual lifestyle becomes accepted as a norm in our society and is given full standing as any other lifestyle, as it relates to family,”

And now, instead of taking the opportunity to re-affirm a strong biblical stance on the issue, Giglio, who is also unsound in some of his theology, instead stated that he refused to be a part of the gay debate:

“Clearly, speaking on this issue has not been in the range of my priorities in the past fifteen years. Instead, my aim has been to call people to ultimate significance as we make much of Jesus Christ.”  Read more at http://global.christianpost.com/news/louie-giglio-explains-withdrawal-from-inauguration-refuses-to-be-part-of-gay-debate-88041/#Gd0SP4fFHAIfSYZm.99

 So much for making it clear that homosexuality is still a sin and an abomination before God.

The Obama administration has selected an openly gay poet, Richard Blanco, to read a poem he has written for the inauguration.  Giglio’s replacement is yet to be named.  I believe it will either be a gay-affirming pastor, or one who will try to remain neutral and will not be clear about homosexual sin.  The Inaugural Committeee spokeswoman stated:

“As we now work to select someone to deliver the benediction, we will ensure their beliefs reflect this administration’s vision of inclusion and acceptance for all Americans,”

 Not a surprise, since Obama’s picks for such events have typically been double-minded or blatantly pro-gay or ecumenical “pastors”, such as Rick Warren.  Remember his prayer at Obama’s first inauguration, implying that the Jesus of Christianity is the same as the Issa of Islam?  You see, President Obama’s administration is clearly exhibiting a disgraceful lack of tolerance for any pastor who has ever spoken out against homosexual sin.  It is the new persecution of Christians with biblical views, by the very people who proclaim to be the most tolerant and accepting of differences in society.

Which leads me to my main point.  There are still some principled pastors in Rhode Island and surrounding areas who are willing to let it be known their position on same sex marriage.  I am sure these pastors realize the “dangers” that come with openly defying political correctness, ecumenical New-Evangelicals and the emergent church crowd, and the religionists of secular humanism.  Consequences could included but not be limited to losing some church members along with the benefits of the tithes and offerings that come with them.  They will certainly lose some invitations to various “Christian” gatherings.  And of course, they will be labeled as hateful, anti-gay, narrow-minded bigots who do not understand that God loves and accepts everyone.

So thank you to these pastors who signed the Rhode Island resolution to defend traditional marriage.  (This does not mean necessarily that any pastor not on the list supports same sex marriage, but I do know that there is a coalition of “Christian” churches that are supporting same sex marriage).  If your pastor is on this list, thank him for signing on.  I recognized several and I intend to write them a word of encouragement for their stand.  It is better to stand for the truth of God’s word, than to embrace the accolades of secular society and rebellious “pastors” and apostate churches such as the Episcopal Church and the ELCA.
Whether their stand makes a difference in halting same sex marriage is not the point at all.  It may not, as clearly this country is falling apart morally, calling the evil things good, while calling good “evil.”

It matters only their faithfulness to the word of God, does it not?  If you are in Rhode Island, and your pastor is not on this list, please encourage him to take a bold stand for the word of God.




Rhode Island List of Pastors Signing The Petition Against Same Sex Marriage:

(P.S.  There will be a hearing held on January 15th at approximately 5:00 PM, in Room 313 of the Rhode Island State House, for those who can come and stand up for marriage.  http://www.riformarriage.com/)


By Bible Believing Pastors and Church Leaders of Rhode Island


Relative to bill H-5015 before the RI General Assembly

WHEREAS, The laws of nature, human reason, and thousands of years of human tradition in all cultures have always affirmed marriage to be a heterosexual institution; and

WHEREAS, Our own society has been based from the beginning on the Judeo-Christian ethic which defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman; and

WHEREAS, The Bible and Jesus Christ in particular define marriage as a heterosexual union between one man and one woman (Genesis 1:27; 2:24; Matthew 19:4-6); and

WHEREAS, Monogamous heterosexual marriage, involving the intimate, permanent union between the two complementary sexes, male and female, is uniquely and naturally suited to fulfill our deepest needs for human companionship; and

WHEREAS, Under normal circumstances, children are best nurtured in the context of a two parent family, where appropriate male behavior is modeled by a loving father and appropriate female behavior is modeled by a loving mother; and

WHEREAS, Heterosexual marriage provides the strong moral, social, and economic foundation for both family and community life; and

WHEREAS, The Bible in both the Old Testament and the New Testament clearly and specifically forbids homosexual conduct – as well as all other forms of sexual misconduct outside the bounds of heterosexual marriage (Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; 1 Timothy 1:8-11); and

WHEREAS, The Bible plainly declares that God loves all people, regardless of their lifestyle, and that he accepts, forgives, heals, and transforms all who come to him in genuine repentance and faith; and

WHEREAS, It is the function of government to provide for the common good of society, to protect marriage and family life, and to promote social righteousness; and

WHEREAS, Civil laws play a decisive role in influencing patterns of thought and behavior in society; and

WHEREAS, Our concern as clergy is not merely to preserve the institution of heterosexual marriage as a religious rite within our own denominations but to preserve the well-being of marriage and family life throughout our state and society; and

WHEREAS, The passage of laws legalizing the marriage of two persons of the same gender will force the teaching of the validity of this lifestyle in the public schools of our state; and

WHEREAS, The passage of laws legalizing the marriage of two persons of the same gender will place persons of conscience who oppose such unions for moral reasons in jeopardy before the law in their business and legal relationships;

Now therefore,

BE IT RESOLVED, That we urge our General Assembly to defeat H-5015, which broadens the definition of persons eligible to marry to include persons of the same gender; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That we commit ourselves to upholding the sanctity of monogamous heterosexual marriage in our churches and local communities both by our preaching and teaching and by our marriage practices; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That we commit ourselves to strongly deplore any hateful speech or violent behavior toward persons of a homosexual lifestyle, such speech and behavior being incompatible with Christian love; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That we commit ourselves to proclaim the love of God toward all persons, whatever their lifestyle, and to offer the hope of forgiveness, acceptance, wholeness, and transformation to all who come to him in genuine repentance and faith; and

BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That we welcome people of all lifestyles to attend the public services of our churches so that they might discover and experience the forgiving grace of God in their lives as we have in our own lives.

SIGNED AND AGREED to 9 January 2013

Alejandro Gaete- Church of the Master, Providence

Alexander Kollie- Solid Rock Assembly of God Church 1753 Phenix Avenue, Cranston

Alexander Martinez- Anchor Baptist Church, Cranston

Archie Emerson- Ocean State Baptist Church, Smithfield

Bernie Norman- Faith Bible Chapel, Westerly

Bill Balson- Stillwater Fellowship, Hope

Bill Reynolds- Beacon Free Will Baptist Church, Exeter

Bryan Speroni-Community Baptist Church, Pascoag

Clinton Smith Sr. – Narragansett Bay Baptist Church, East Greenwich

Chris Baker- Knotty Oak Baptist Church, Coventry

Dave Aucoin- Abundant Life Assembly of God, Swansea

Dan Carrillo, New Hope Chapel, Hope Valley, Rhode Island

Dan Crichton – Grace Bible Church, Cranston

Dave Gadoury- Cranston Christian Fellowship, Cranston

Dave Medeiros- Harvest Community Church, Woonsocket

David Lachance- Christian Hill Community Church, West Warwick

David Smith- Faith Baptist Church, Warwick

D. Paul Lawrence- American Baptists Churches of RI

Don Stiles- Calvary Baptist Church, Narragansett

Doug Brandenburg- Narragansett Bay Baptist Church, East Greenwich

Douglas W. Tourgee- Riverpoint Advent Christian Church, West Warwick

Drew Boyd-First Baptist Church of Warwick, Warwick

Emmanuel D.T. Bautista- Frenchtown Baptist Church, East Greenwich

Ernie Robillard- First Baptist Church in East Providence, Rumford

Gary Muniz- North Kingstown Assembly of God, North Kingstown

Gene Giguere- Harvest Community Church, Woonsocket

George Barclay, Norwood Baptist Church, Warwick

George Warren- New Hope Baptist Church, Pascoag

Hugh Fisher- Narragansett Bay Baptist Church, East Greenwich

Jeffrey R. Francoeur- Colonial Baptist Church, Rumford

Jim Menzies- Perryville Bible Church, Wakefield

Jim Ricci- Cranston Christian Fellowship, Cranston

Jim Sole- Quidnessett Baptist Church, North Kingstown

Joe Campbell- Quidneck Baptist Church, Coventry

Joel Fraser- Narragansett Bay Baptist Church, East Greenwich

John Gibson- Heritage Christian Fellowship, Warwick

John Goasdone- First Baptist Church of Narragansett

John Lawson- Cranston Bible Chapel, Cranston

John Wheeler- Stony Lane Baptist Church, North Kingstown

Jonathan Angell- North Kingstown Assembly of God, North Kingstown

Keith Mlyniec- West Kingston Baptist Church, West Kingston

Lester Sedam III- Pilgrims Baptist Church, Ashaway

Lyle Mook- Christ Church, East Greenwich

Mark Cote- Jamestown Chapel, Jamestown

Mark Galloway- the Church of The Apostles, Coventry

Michael Hamilton- North Tiverton Baptist Church, North Tiverton

Michael J. Ives- Presbyterian Reformed Church of R.I, East Greenwich

Michael Link- Quidnessett Baptist Church, North Kingstown

Mike Sokoll- Providence Baptist Church, Providence

Nash Desent-Historic Baptist Church, North Kingstown

Norman Seiders, Warwick Church of Christ, Warwick

Olivier Bala- Mount Hope Community Baptist Church, Providence

Paul Chapman- Curtis Corner Baptist Church- Wakefield

Paul Martins- Barrington Baptist Church, Barrington

Peter Atkin- Living Hope Christian Church, North Kingstown

Phil Curtis- Exeter Chapel, Exeter

Randy Lewis- Blackstone Valley Baptist Church, Cumberland

Ray Tierney- Mount Pleasant Baptist Church, Providence

Rich Chapman- Calvary Chapel Greenmeadow, North Kingstown

Richard K. Leahey- Solid Rock Church, Cranston

Rick Ferris President – C12 Group So. New England

Robert Akinrimisi Lighthouse Gospel Ministries, Providence

Robert Burnock – Darlington Congregational Church, Pawtucket

Robert Mathis- Friendship Baptist Church, Warwick

Robert Santaniello- Exeter Chapel, Exeter

Roger L. Stafford- Chepachet Union Church, Chepachet

Scott Aiken- North Scituate Advent Christian Church, North Scituate

Scott Finkbeiner- Shannock Baptist Church, Shannock

Scott Tucker- Calvary Baptist Church, Middletown

Steve Bacon- Harvest Community Church, Woonsocket

Steve Boyce- New Life Worship Center, Smithfield

Steve Martel- Harvest Community Church, Woonsocket

Stephen DeSantis – Warwick Assembly of God, Warwick

Timothy Kuhn- Bible Baptist Church, Central Falls

Todd Stricklin- Narragansett Bay Baptist Church, East Greenwich

Tony Phelps- Christ Our Hope Presbyterian Church, Peace Dale