Ravi, Please Do Not Go To Together 2016

I sent this letter to Ravi Zacharias today.  Please pray that he reverses his decision to speak at Together 2016.

 

Dear Ravi,

I have had great respect for you over the years. My small ministry is in apologetics and warning Christians about false teaching, and has included the use of many of your videos and writings as a resource.

Yet, I am greatly concerned that you have joined the lineup of speakers at the Together 2016 gathering at the National Mall this weekend. I sincerely urge you to pull out of this event before its too late. Although I am not a theologian or a pastor with the greatest grasp of Scripture, I do know that according to the Bible, this is not the kind of event that a Bible believing Christian would be attending. We are commanded clearly in Scripture to stay away from those who teach a false gospel- and this is exactly the kind of gathering it has become. Most troubling is the fact that Pope Francis, leader of the false religion of Roman Catholicism, has given his blessing to this event, and will be addressing the people remotely.

Also troubling is the great amount of music artists and speakers who have a history of compromise with, and promoting Roman Catholic ideas and even its mystical practices. Again, Scripture clearly teaches us to avoid such people, not fellowship with them.

Finally, there are clearly false teachers in this group who teach things that are outside of Scripture. There is Ann Voskamp, who claims to have intimate encounters with God, much of it with an erotic like twist to it. There is Mark Batterson, who wrote a book that basically promotes a form of Christian witchcraft. I could name others as well.

Your presence at this event will only lead to more confusion, and will further contribute to your loss of credibility among those who believe in the authority of Scripture, and who desire to obey rather than compromise God’s word. You made a mistake once before, when you attended and spoke at a Mormon assembly, failing to address to difference between the Mormon religion, and true Christianity. Please do not make the same mistake again, and heed the words of Scripture. If not, I am afraid you will be yet another once-solid apologist for Christ, and you will be known as an apologist for the coming one world religion.

I pray that you will repent of this decision, and that you will also call out this gathering for what it really is: a false unity consisting of people who are not being faithful to the real Gospel of Jesus Christ.

“Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.” Eph. 5:11

Sincerely in Christ,

Manny Silva

Stand For Truth Ministries

Together 2016: False Unity Amongst False Teachers And Compromisers

TOGETHER 2016 IS NOT A MOVEMENT OF GOD. This is a warning to all Christians who are considering attending or recommending Together 2016, which is coming to Washington, DC on July 16. It is yet another piece of wasted time and effort to organize another “Christian” event that does nothing to advance the TRUTH of God’s word. There will be many popular contemporary Christian artists, pastors and speakers in attendance.

And because of that, this report will hurt some feelings and upset some of you, and hopefully cause you to think carefully- because many of you love to hear some of these Christian music artists, and many of you love to listen to some of the speakers who will be there. And certainly it is true that much of what these people sing and say is very sound. But they must be called out for their deliberate disobedience of Holy Scripture. In these times of great apostasy, there is no good reason to shrink from telling the truth of what is going on, even if you lose some friends. This is very important to understand.

I have not seen a large Christian event in years that has reflected true Christian values and sound doctrine. Why is that? It is because of that word “unity.”

Unity among Christians is certainly important. But the line is drawn in Scripture, over and over again, by Jesus and the apostles, as to who we should fellowship with. When you look at who they are joining up with, the answer is yes. Many of these compromisers are joining with the false religion of Rome, in spite of the fact that Romanism teaches that you can be saved through works, besides many other false teachings. And so therefore we need to heed such Scriptural teachings as:

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? 2 Corinthians 14-16

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. Eph. 5:11

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. Romans 16:17

But instead of heeding God’s word, the “Christian” world is coming together towards that one world religion. This coming together often is through these large gatherings of famous speakers and popular contemporary Christian musicians, as a show of “unity” and “love.” The next one is coming on July 16, and it is a collection of heretics, mystics, false teachers, compromisers, and Roman Catholic sympathizers. And the pope will give his blessing to them all!

Those looking for a great revival in the church that will stop all this madness ought to consider the fact that it is not what Scripture says will happen in the last days. So even though we are constantly being bombarded by an endless parade of unbelievable and worsening apostasy, we should not be surprised. But we had better not ignore it! It is what will continue on until Christ returns and takes control of the situation. Paul writes about this in 2 Timothy 3:

“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

 

On July 16, at the National Mall in Washington, DC, there will be a gathering of famous names in Christianity. Their stated purpose is “…to come together around Jesus in unified prayer, worship, and a call for catalytic change. We’re coming together with as many people as possible who believe Jesus changes everything.” We hear this call all over the world now, don’t we? They say, “we need to be united in love.” “As long as we believe in Jesus, we can be one.” Roman Catholics must come together with evangelicals, they say, because after all, don’t we both believe that Jesus is the Savior? They have misused scripture such as John 17:21 as a reason for ecumenical hand holding. That scripture says: “that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.”

Let’s be reminded of the criteria Jesus Christ our Lord sets for us, that illustrates true unity amongst Christians. What does Jesus really say about unity? Let’s look at the context of John 17:

“I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.

For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me.

14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.

17 Sanctify them by YOUR TRUTH. Your word is TRUTH. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified BY THE TRUTH.

True Christian unity cannot be demonstrated by bringing together sound doctrine with unsound doctrine. True unity is evidenced by speaking the TRUTH, and keeping Christ’s commandments. But that is exactly what the ecumenical movement is NOT. It is a movement based on man’s theology, not on sound doctrine as taught in Scripture. Those who live by sound doctrine are commanded in Scripture to avoid those who do not speak the TRUTH.

So now below is a list of those false teachers and compromisers, including the leader of the false Roman Catholic Church, who will be speaking to all these supposed Christian evangelicals. I must say that some of the names on this list used to be solid apologists with sound doctrine, but now they are becoming part of this rapidly apostasizing form of Christianity. Friends, I pray for sound judgment and discernment for all when they first see an announcement of the next gathering of famous artists and speakers. Most likely, it will be a gathering of apostates and false teachers and compromisers who have collected their 30 pieces of silver.

Part 2: The Lineup At Together 2016

Pope Francis: The greatest compromiser perhaps at this event. I cannot even begin to speak here about the errors of this pope in his messages, as well as all other popes before him. Although he will be speaking only by remote video, the fact that the leader of a false religion is part of this event should make it easy for a true believer to stay away at all costs!

The pope
(http://www.piratechristian.com/berean-examiner/2016/6/the-pope-and-hillsong-will-unite-together-2016-in-washington-dc)

Denominational Leaders And Organizations Who Are Joining This Apostate Gathering:

George O. Wood: Assemblies of God Superintendent.
George Wood

Ronnie Floyd: President of the Southern Baptist Convention.
Ronnie Floyd

The 700 Club: This organization has been lacking in discernment for quite some time.  They do not seem to have a representative scheduled, but they have endorsed this event.
(
http://www1.cbn.com/video/700clubinteractive/2016/06/8/700-club-interactive-together-2016-june-8-2016)

Pastors/Evangelists/Apologists:

Ravi Zacharias: A gifted speaker and apologist for Christianity for many years, this great debator has faltered in recent years. In 2014, the compromise showed clearly when he spoke at a gathering of the Mormon church in January. Never once did he distinguish between the real Gospel and the false gospel of the Mormon Church. Opportunity was lost that time, and frankly, opportunity is already lost this time as well- unless he clearly and boldly tell everyone there that fellowship with the Roman Catholic Church is not fellowship with Jesus. Please pray for Ravi Zacharias to repent from coming to this event, and for him to renounce any connections with this false group of ecumenists.
Ravi Zacharias

Nick Hall: founder and chief communicator of PULSE, Hall is the main organizer of this event.
Nick Hall

Luis Palau: This evangelist is very popular, and is heard often on K-Love radio and other venues. A gifted speaker, he nevertheless has been compromising for years, joining with the Roman Catholic church in many of his evangelist gatherings. To him, there is no distinction between Bible-believing Christians and those who believe the heresies of Rome. He has contributed greatly to this deception.
Luis Palau(http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details3.asp?ID=17165)

Ann Voskamp: Voskamp is known to discerning Christians for her bad theology and how she romanticizes her relationship with God. One of her books is One Thousand Gifts, in which she wrote of her “experience” with God and shows her total lack of understanding of who God is. She relies more on “experiencing God” rather than giving attention to God’s word, which is no surprise. She is a false teacher.
Ann Voskamp
(http://www.solasisters.com/2014/05/ann-voskamps-one-thousand-gifts.html)

Josh McDowell: Once a great apologist for Christianity, McDowell now has turned to another gospel, the false gospel of ecumenicalism and unity with Rome.
Josh McDowel(http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/mcdowell/general.htm)

Francis Chan: This pastor is very popular and has done some good things. But he has been compromising also for years, joining up with those from the emergent church movement and with those who promote contemplative spirituality. He has joined with the false IHOP (International House of Prayer) and spoke at their convention, and endorsed their false teachers such as Mike Bickle.
Francis Chan(http://www.thepathoftruth.com/false-teachers/francis-chan.htm)
Lou Engle: An American Charismatic Christian leader, Founder of The Call. Engle is associated with the Dominionist movement. He was featured in the film “Jesus Camp”. He came out of the Kansas City Prophets and Latter Rain movement, and was a senior leader of IHOP (International House of Prayer). IHOP is an organization led by Mike Bickle and is one of the falsest movements around. Engle was at the Azuza Now event earlier in 2016, and he kissed the foot of Roman Catholic leader Calisi, shortly after the priest prostrated at his feet in an act of “reconciliation.”
Lou Engle
(http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/false-prophet-of-new-apostolic-reformation-lou-engle-bows-before-roman-priest-kisses-foot/)

Mark Batterson: Author of The Circle Maker, a book that essentially promotes “Christian witchcraft.” Should any Bible-believing Christian truly accept his teaching that we should be drawing circles on the ground and praying around it like some magic formula? It is utter nonsense, yet many Christians and churches have fallen for it. It is yet another sign of the apostasy coming into the church today.
Mark Batterson
(http://beginningandend.com/the-circle-maker-heresy-witchcraft-in-the-church/)

Tony Evans: Christian pastor and author who is connected with the ecumenical Promise Keepers organization also. His theology is not as sound as one may think, but he clearly has decided that joining with the Roman Catholic sympathizers is a good thing.
Tony Evans

Sammy Rodriguez: NBC/Telemundo called him “America’s most influential Latino Evangelical leader”. Sammy Rodriguez is just another influential leader who has jumped on the “kumbayah” bandwagon.
Samuel Rodriguez

Eric Mason: A pastor, author and church planter in the Southern Baptist Convention who has joined the ecumenical movement.
Eric Mason

Nabeel Quereshi: A global speaker with the Ravi Zacharias Ministries, Nabeel has followed his mentor’s steps and turned to the ecumenical road.
Nabeel Quereshi

The entire evolving lineup of pastors and Christian leaders is listed at the website: http://reset2016.com/confirmed/

 

Contemporary Christian Bands/Artists/Industry Leaders

So much of contemporary Christian music is more bad than good, that it would need another article to discuss that. However, the CCM artists attending this ecumenical love-fest have been joined at the hip with the Roman Catholic Church for years. They have been helping promote this false Christian unity, with no discernment whatsoever. This is the reason I do not buy their music, I refuse to go to their concerts, and I encourage people to save their money and instead spend more time in God’s word. I do not want to be responsible for suggesting that any of these groups and individuals are close to being a solid example of what a Christian testimony should be. So here is the list of “Christian” artists who are selling themselves out for thirty pieces of silver.

Mike Novak, President and CEO of K-Love Radio: This radio station has long gone the way of lack of discernment as to what it plays, and as to what and who it promotes, so it is no surprise that their CEO will be at this gathering. He will fit right in.

(https://truedsicernment.com/2011/01/17/positively-discouraging-k-love

Hillsong United: If any group was to lead “worship” in the one world church, it would be Hillsong United. It is more a business venture to make money, than a venture to exalt God in worship. Just recent examples of their lack of wisdom and discernment should make every Christian throw away all their CDs, and refuse to use their songs in church anymore. It has been called a “breeding ground for false converts”, and rightly so. They preach and sing a false, empty gospel, and explains why it has attracted so many Hollywood types and sports stars over the years. Their churches are a “hip” place to go to, but it is full of a false gospel.

Hillsong has also linked up with Rome, another sign that it is an apostate organization.
Hillsong United(http://pulpitandpen.org/2015/07/30/hillsong-a-breeding-ground-for-false-converts-and-your-church-pays-for-it/)

Michael W. Smith: Has compromised for many years already by linking up with the Roman Catholic Church. On his website, it is typical of some any other ecumenical “Christians.” You will not find anything about his doctrinal beliefs. It is intentional, so that his music is appealing to all areas of Christianity, and so he does not want to offend anyone. That is textbook ecumenicalism, do not offend! He yokes together with Catholics, instead of following God’s clear instructions to “do not be unequally yoked.” His is a non-judgmental kind of Christianity.
Michael W smith(http://www.greatpreachers.org/mw_smith.html)

Crowder: Not only does he perform musically, Crowder is joined at the hip with the Roman Catholic Church as well, and he promotes contemplative mysticism.
Crowder(https://davemosher.wordpress.com/tag/david-crowder/)

 

Some of the Other Compromising “Christian” Artists: By imitating the unsaved world with their hip hop styles and their worldly sounding music and lyrics, many of these artists have naturally slipped into the same compromising positions with the world and with the Roman Catholic Church. Some of the songs are doctrinally sound, but many other songs are not, and could very easily be mistaken for songs performed for Top 40 radio and rock and roll stations. Here are some of the other compromisers, and the entire evolving lineup is listed at the website: http://reset2016.com/confirmed/

Compromisers

 

 

A Storm Coming: The Church of the Nazarene’s Steps Toward Embracing Homosexuality

By Lige Jeter and Manny Silva

The Church of the Nazarene seems to be heading towards full acceptance of homosexuality. With its compromising at the university and seminary levels, as well as in local churches and districts, the evidence is there. The desire to “be relevant”, or the need for being viewed as “kind” and “tolerant” Christians, is too strong apparently for the leadership in the church today. Acceptance of homosexuality in the Church of the Nazarene is coming, and is just a matter of when, not if. Perhaps it will take another five or 10 years, or perhaps it will happen at the next General Assembly in 2017

The groundwork for this has been laid down for a long time. It can all be traced to the persistent and obsessive put-down of the belief of Holy Scripture as the inerrant and infallible word of God. Ask most leaders in the Nazarene church today, and they will tell you that they do not believe in the inerrancy of Scripture. Some have been denied ordination for believing such a thing. That is how all the heresies have started, when “men of god” ask the same question that Satan asked in the Garden of Eden: “Hath God really said.” This is seen within the emergent church movement, which has been embraced by Nazarenes throughout the denomination. It is a movement that has total disdain for the Bible’s authority and inerrancy.

Just in the last seven years or so we have many examples of how the Church of the Nazarene is bringing the world into the church. We find that there is an attraction to the idea of “welcoming” or “affirming” the LGBT radicals who believe that homosexuality is not a sin. Nazarene leaders want to get along with everyone, and show their “love” and “compassion” towards homosexuals. The focus on “understanding” homosexuality (a sin) is far and above any focus on any other particular sin. It is an obsession, perhaps an attempt to be “relevant” as a church.

Just a few of many examples:

  • Recently, at Oklahoma City Church of the Nazarene in February (the senior pastor is Jon Middendorf), an event was hosted called “With All Due Respect: Hospitality & the LGBT Community.” The panel included a professor, Dr. Timothy Crutcher, from Southern Nazarene University; a mother of a homosexual child; a theology major who labeled herself as an intersex person; and Andy McGee, a Nazarene pastor and executive director of Love Wins: LGBT in Kansas City. The absurdity of all this can be seen when you read the article about this event. (http://www.gayly.com/love-wins-conservative-church-shows-respect-lgbt-community. This is an example of meaningless and endless talk about something that is clear as day in Scripture. When the LGBT community heaps praise on a Nazarene church for what they did, it cannot be good news for biblical Christians.
  • Adam Hamilton and Mike Slaughter are pastors in the United Methodist Church who believe that homosexuality and same sex marriage are okay. A few years ago, Hamilton proposed a radical change to the bylaws of the United Methodist Church. See a rebuttal to these two men by a concerned Methodist in this post: http://goodnewsmag.org/2014/06/an-open-letter-to-revs-adam-hamilton-and-michael-slaughter/

These men clearly promote a way of life which the Bible teaches is sinful, and are under fire in their own denomination for what they are advocating. Yet, at Nazarene Bible College, and at the Nazarene Theological Seminary as well, their material and videos are used in Bible classes for future pastors. Why does a holiness Bible college and the seminary allow the use of material by those who promote acceptance of homosexuality and same sex marriage?

  • An LGBT support group started at Eastern Nazarene College and approved by the college leadership.
  • A message preached to students at Eastern Nazarene College by the now former chaplain, Corey McPherson, in which he talked proudly of having worshiped together with the members at a “Christian” homosexual church. His message, which is transcripted on my blog, was a complete compromise to biblical Christianity, yet this message was apparently acceptable to the college president and other leaders in the church.
  • A radical LGBT group, SoulForce, was once again allowed to come onto the campus of Trevecca Nazarene University and “dialog” with administrators and students from the school. This was the second visit by this group to Trevecca, which is led by Dan Boone, who has also permitted a variety of unbiblical practices, such as contemplative mysticism, to continue at the school for years now.

Why is all this happening now?

A Storm Is Coming

(Lige Jeter)

As a lifelong Floridian, I am familiar with hurricanes, and know the basics on how to prepare for the danger it presents. Every resident that has lived in Florida for any length of time is familiar with what to expect. New residents who have never weathered a storm need to follow some simple common sense rules to avoid the obvious dangers connected with them. Each needs to assess their own situations in light of the forecast and act accordingly for the best interest of their family. Having prepared to survive (building upon the rock) increases your chances of survival. To do nothing (building upon the sand) guarantees failure.

Past experiences have taught those who forecast storms that certain atmospheric conditions, such as water temperature, prevailing winds, and landfall location, play a vital part in the likely destruction the threat represents to those in its path. As in any storm, promptly acknowledging its initial disturbance regardless how small is crucial. It is important to monitor its movement and its primary direction of travel. Monitoring future parameters surrounding the disturbance that contribute to it eventually becoming a hurricane is necessary. This same analogy applied to the Church facing an imminent Spiritual storm can protect its membership; or lack of can cause irreparable damage causing great loss.

There are several organized forces invading the Christian community. Groups like Soulforce, LGBT groups, and individuals such as Nazarene Ally have an unrelenting determination for acceptance, and to change the Church’s stand against homosexual and lesbian behavior including same sex marriage. They have won favor and support on about every front except the Church, as a whole, which appears to be their next big target to conquer. Even though the Church of the Nazarene recently made it clear on its Biblical standing regarding deviant behavior, it is not exempt from groups like these who are applying pressure targeting its leadership to change their position. Soulforce recently visited Trevecca Nazarene University for the second time, March 15, 2016. The article of their visit is found here: http://www.soulforce.org/#!Hollering-into-the-Well/cb7u/56e8721f0cf2bc133ba11645

An approach for social acceptance in the Church suggested by Nazarene Ally peddled under the banner, “We Can Do Better;” they play the numbers game, comparing the number of LGBT presumed in the world (2 – 4 percent) to the corresponding members inferred by definition in the COTN. By using the lower estimated percentile associated with the world, the COTN would have 48,000 LGBT members based upon 2.4 million memberships. This number could double by applying the higher estimated percentile of 4 percent. The intent of sequence was to weaken the perceived impact they would have on the Church if accepted. This small number would thereby reduce the threat of any implied compromise.

They hint that “A Perfect Storm” is about to take place suggesting a series of events could occur leading a pastor to perform a same sex marriage based upon a longtime childhood friendship. Using persuasive logic, they will go to any length to win support for their side. We are seeing this today in our ranks, the pressure is mounting to cave-in, but the Church cannot become a partner to this foolishness. The Church cannot afford to compromise its convictions or give in under any circumstance. The article is located here, Gay Nazarenes | Nazarene Ally

In 2Kings, God gives a warning not-to-be-taken lightly. The Church, as with any nation, if not careful can reach the moral point-of-no-return as warned in 2 Kings 19:3 “And they said to him, ‘Thus says Hezekiah: This day is a day of trouble, and rebuke, and blasphemy; for the children have come to birth, but there is no strength to bring them forth.” “For the children have come to the birth” represents the danger of perishing because the woman was so spent she had no strength to deliver the child.

Should our Church ever compromise its polity against wrongful behavior, we too will be as the woman and will have no strength or desire to deliver ourselves. The danger is the Church will become complacent in its new spiritual state and will not wish to return. Some Churches have already gone too far to turn back. For those who engage the LGBT lifestyle the Bible is clear to those who claim to be a Christian Homosexual or Christian Lesbian, or any other act of perversion is an oxymoron. Wicked men often think that which they suggest against revelation justify them in rejecting it.

Prepare for the storm in the next General Assembly 2017.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Links for Adam Hamilton:

 

In his own words:

 

http://www.umc.org/news-and-media/hamilton-church-homosexuality-law-needs-local-option

 

A critique of Adam Hamilton from a fellow Methodist:

http://goodnewsmag.org/2014/06/an-open-letter-to-revs-adam-hamilton-and-michael-slaughter/

 

 

Referenced material in course work at Nazarene Theological Seminary:

 

Course Name: Leading Strong, Healthy Churches
http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/861040/21092126/1354038431230/A+-+PTH790+LeadingStrongHealthyChurches_Module_SP13_Busic.pdf?token=Jwzl1oZuXyY%2F5ysiutyM%2BWunriY%3D

 

Course Name: Christian Preaching

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/861040/19765461/1344436532093/A+-+PRH610ChristianPreaching_Block_FA12_Busic.pdf?token=CPHdriHfHHzauk51K0xL4nnHtos%3D

Holiness Today Magazine: Helping To Build The One World Religion

“The real basis for Christian unity is agreeing in the truth of God’s word, not “Christian love”.

A friend who is attending PALCON (a leadership conference for Nazarene pastors) wrote me a few days ago. He said “I am at PALCON here at MVNU. We had communion last night and I could swear I was back in a Catholic church. Absolutely appalled about this.” This is no surprise. My father, a Nazarene pastor, would have been appalled as well, given that he was rescued from the bondage of Roman Catholicism, and he preached the real Gospel to the Roman Catholics in Cape Verde for years. And now, the premise of a new article in Holiness Today needs to be repudiated, rejected, and condemned by all Bible-believing Christians in the Nazarene denomination.

One of the appalling things we see today is that men who have been taught in seminary are now leading their congregations down a path towards the one world religion of the Anti-christ. They are either deceived and are totally blind, or they know the lie and choose to promote it. In an online issue dated May 17, 2016, Holiness Today has published an article that suggests that Nazarenes have no differences with Roman Catholics that are worth dividing over. Furthermore, it also promises that in the next issue, that they “will report on ways in which the Church of the Nazarene and the Roman Catholic Church share a very important common heritage in addition to how we can partner together for the kingdom of Go

Pastor Jeremy Scott, a Nazarene pastor from Massachusetts, has now put into written form what has been happening for at least the last seven years, if not more. A few years ago, I wrote an article called The Roman Catholicization of the Church of the Nazarene. From imitating the Catholic Eucharist rituals, ashes to the forehead, and other Catholic practices; to contemplative mysticism such as retreats to Roman Catholic monasteries, practicing the silence and using prayer labyrinths; to using books by, and quoting Roman Catholic mystics in sermons and Nazarene publications, it is obvious what is happening.

And now the Nazarene road to apostasy is becoming a shameless, in-your-face declaration of the desire to become “brothers and sisters” with a false religion whose doctrines and practices brought on the great Reformation and much persecution and death to many faithful believers. But now, pastors and leaders who should know better are purposely ignoring the reality of every idolatrous practice and teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, and are now practicing and teaching some of these things themselves.

In case you did not know, the Roman Catholic Church teaches a false gospel of salvation by works, and condemns all who believe otherwise. This and this alone disqualifies the RCC as part of the body of Christ (see Galatians 1:6-10). There are many, many other satanic teachings of the RCC which are well documented, and if you wish to have a refresher, please read this article on my blog.

Here Are Some Major Points Made By The Writer, With My Comments Following:

  1. “I have learned not to assume that someone who is Roman Catholic does not know who Jesus Christ is, even to the depths of Lord and Savior.”

That is true, we should never assume for sure that a specific individual is not saved if he is Roman Catholic. But if he believes in the way that the RCC teaches, such as salvation by works or by baptism, can you truly say that he is saved? Can another gospel save you?

  1. “ But the fact is that we do find ourselves divided. And there are differences between us. So can we yet be “one” in ways other than strict doctrinal adherence? Might we be one in worship, in sacrament, and in mission? Can we work together compassionately and tell people that Jesus is Lord?”

The answer is no, because they preach “another jesus, another gospel” (2 Cor. 11:4). Jeremy is incorrect when he says that there will be no divisions. Christ Himself said He came not to bring peace, but to bring a sword. There is an idea that the writer and others in his generation are being indoctrinated with. It is the idea that “doctrines divide”, so why can’t we get along in other ways, such as worship, sacraments, etc? Why can’t we set aside our differences and be “one” for the sake of Christ? The answer is we cannot be “one” if we differ in major doctrines that clearly go against what Scripture teaches! This is Bible 101, and Jeremy should know that, and if he did, he would realize that we cannot compromise the Gospel, otherwise as Paul writes in Galatians 1, “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!”

  1. “Indeed there are huge doctrinal, liturgical, organizational, and missional differences between the Roman Catholic Church and the Church of the Nazarene.”

The writer admits there are huge doctrinal differences, yet he sets that aside like it is nothing. Again, this is the mindset of this generations’ graduating pastors, and many of them who have come out of the seminary in the last several decades with a cavalier attitude towards biblical doctrine. But sadly, even many pastors from the older generation are falling for this unbiblical ecumenical stance.

  1. “We value the example of Mary, but not nearly in the same ways that Roman Catholics do.”

 Here, the significance of Mary in Catholic theology is completely brushed aside without mention of what she means to the Catholic Church! Mary is prayed to and venerated by Catholics, is called the “Queen of Heaven”, is believed to have been sinless, and can even bring salvation to individuals! Here are the very words from the current pope, one of the most evil popes in years, when he spoke of Mary:

“ “She is a true mother who gives us life in Christ, and in the communion of the Holy Spirit, brings us into a common life with our brothers and sisters. The model of motherhood for the Church is the Blessed Virgin Mary, who in the fullness of time conceived through the Holy Spirit and gave birth to the Son of God,” Pope Francis continued. “Her motherhood continues through the Church, who brings forth sons and daughters through baptism, whom she nourishes through the word of God.” (Pope Francis)

  1. “The temptation is to assume that because we believe someone to be wrong about one thing, then they are wrong about everything. Or we somehow conclude that when someone does one thing incorrectly, then all else that they perform is also suspect.”

Again, a lack of understanding of Scripture, and illustrates what is a false dichotomy. The Roman Catholic Church does many good things, but that is not the point. The Mormon Church does many things correctly. So does the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Shall we join with them? Christ tells us to obey His commandments if we truly love Him. Not some or most, but all of His commandments. The Roman Catholic Church is far from coming close to obeying His commandments, yet today’s new Nazarene pastor wants to associate with those who preach a false gospel.

  1. The gospel calls us not to uniformity, but to unity in love. Christ explicitly told us that people will know that we are following Him by the way they see us love each other. Paul calls us to this same mind of Christ—that we agree together in love in Philippians 2. This is the goal: loving with the love of Christ. The rest is indeed detail.”

This is a sugar coated lie, but a lie nonetheless. The real basis for Christian unity is agreeing in the truth of God’s word, not “Christian love.” This is why we do what we do here. Jude 1 and many other teachings in scripture compels the believer to contend for the faith, exposing the evil wherever it is within the church.” We are not given the freedom to have variations of the Gospel. We cannot believe in “saved by grace” and then have fellowship with those who are “saved by works.” That is a different gospel, yet the writer and many of today’s Nazarene pastors are ignoring essential doctrines for the sake of a false unity. Titus 1:9 says that “He must hold firmly to the faithful message as it has been taught, so that he will be able to give exhortation in such healthy teaching and correct those who speak against it.” And this writer fails to take heed to what John said in 2 John verse 6, after exhorting the believers to walk in love. He said: “Now this is love: that we walk according to his commandments.”

  1. The Church of the Nazarene and most all Protestant denominations are offshoots of the Roman Catholic Church… it is also true that the Church of the Nazarene wouldn’t exist without the faithfulness of the Roman Catholic Church over those 1,500 years.”

This is nonsense! The writer either forgets, or refuses to acknowledge, the horrible history of the Roman Catholic Church over those 1,500 years! The persecutions, the killings, the special Jesuit units sent out to hunt down and torture thousands of Christians who refused to bow down to a false religion. Are these pastors being taught this nonsensical idea at the seminaries now? It is outrageous to think that the Roman Catholic Church was faithful in any way to God through the centuries. And now with his attempts to unite all religions with Christianity, including the Muslim faith, the pope is clearly leading the way of unfaithfulness now.

  1. “But Jesus calls us in John 17 and other places to more than finger-pointing. Jesus calls us to pray for our enemies and demonstrates to us the example of inviting those unlike us to the table.”

Correct in some way, but not completely. What we do is not “finger-pointing. Jesus and the apostles exhorts us over and over to expose the false teachers, shun those who preach a false gospel, and warn the believers not have anything to do with them. We can pray for our enemies and we do; but we should never abdicate our responsibility to obey the other teachings of Christ and the apostles.

These things are all Bible 101 that a layperson knows. Why does not a seminary graduate understand this? And why does the editor of Holiness Today allow this to be published? Because he either agrees with it, or he could care less what is published! This is not an indictment of Jeremy Scott. He is just one of many who believe this nonsense, and are spreading it. He, like many other pastors, have been indoctrinated with the end times “one world religion” philosophy. I wonder, do the General Superintendents have anything to say about this, since they are charged by the church to interpret and uphold the doctrines of the church? If we asked them for clarification, would they even comment?

It will be interesting to find out in the next issue just how the Nazarene denomination is supposed to partner with those of a false religion. To Jeremy and other pastors who are part of this new movement, I pray that you will repent of this, and instead turn towards preaching the Gospel to those who are following a false religion. Every Nazarene pastor in the Church of the Nazarene must answer this question: will I be complicit in this new “fellowship” with a false religion, or will I protect my people and defend the word of God at all costs?

It is evident that the Church of the Nazarene is fast turning into anything other than a “holiness” church. And regarding the General Superintendents and other major leaders in the church: they need to reject this idea completely, or they need to resign because of their incompetence.

 

Additional Resources:

  1. Roman Catholic mysticism and the Emerging Church

https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/roman-catholicic-mysticism-emergent-church-richard-bennett/

In this 57 minute talk, Richard Bennett explains Roman Catholic mysticism and the Emerging Church.  Richard is a former Jesuit priest who now has a ministry website called the Berean Beacon.

  1. Roman Catholicism and Its Heresies

https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/roman-catholicism-and-its-heresies/

  1. Walter Martin: The Greatest Danger in the Church Today
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78wRKmmnwhY

 

How Progressives (Liberals) Revise History And Blame Biblical Christians For Ruining The Church of the Nazarene

“True unity is not reckless diversity in doctrine; true unity is unity in the Spirit, and unity in what God’s word says.”

Recently, a post was written by a pastor in the United Methodist Church, Ric Shewell, in which he decried what he sees as a sad situation in the Church of the Nazarene. Rev. Shewell is also a former Nazarene pastor, who left the denomination and says that he was driven out, although I do not know why, since he seems to fit in nicely with the current philosophy. He is also a major supporter of Tom Oord. Both denominations share a similar heritage, including the connection with John Wesley and his holiness message, and hence an understandable concern for a sister denomination. In his article, pastor Shewell laments that due to the intolerance of conservatives within the Nazarene denomination, it has led to the dismissal or demotion of such Nazarene notables as Dr. Oord, a professor at Northwest Nazarene University who rejects the Genesis account of creation and embraces evolution, who does not believe Adam and Eve existed, who teaches the heresy that God cannot know the future, and that God is not perfect and actually learns from His mistakes.

He gives other examples such as in 2007, when a college professor was dismissed for his views in favor of evolution; the dismissal of the Nazarene Publishing House president; and the demotion of a college chaplain for his views on wars based on Jesus’s Sermon on the Mount. His point in using these examples is that the Church of the Nazarene is losing out in the area of diversity in thought and leadership. His conclusion is essentially this: that traditionalists (conservatives, or Bible-believers) are the ones to blame for a so-called uniformity of thought which is squeezing out the progressives and leading to a serious division in the church, and that soon the United Methodist Church will suffer the same fate if something is not done about it.

Pastor Shewell is correct in several ways. Yes, the Church of the Nazarene is being fractured, and uniformity of thought is being promoted heavily. Yes, there are many in the church today that are being intolerant of certain views and as a result are alienating those folks who have those views. (Intolerance is good in some instances, as in when faithfulness to God’s word demands intolerance of false teaching). What is totally incorrect in his conclusions is that he has it reversed, as to who is responsible for this so-called division and drive for uniformity of thought. It is clear from all the evidence over the last decade, that this “uniformity of thought” is being driven by the progressives, and it is clear also that they will not tolerate any thought or belief that opposes their views. By the way, those who believe in the inerrancy of Scripture also believe in uniformity of thought, as long as it is driven and supported by God’s word. True unity is not reckless diversity in doctrine; true unity is unity in the Spirit, and unity in what God’s word says. We will always accept that kind of uniformity of thought.

You can read his entire post here, as well as this post by my friend Dave Mosher which he wrote three years ago about the United Methodist pastor who hosts the website which posted Rev. Shewell’s article. In the meantime, here is my response to the article, with a few added thoughts to extend the comments on his view.

This idea that progressives are being kicked out by conservatives in the Church of the Nazarene is, with all due respect, nonsense! It is the other way around- and can be evidenced by the many biblical Nazarenes who have been forced to leave a denomination that is becoming more and more apostate as time goes by. It will soon be even more “progressive”, and eventually will embrace “homosexual Christians” as being part of the body of Christ. Is there any evidence of progressive persecution of traditional Christians in the church? Yes there is.

-The rejection of the divinely inspired word of God as actually being God’s word in full, is evidence also. This is the central source of the entire problem in any denomination that has strayed from the truth.

-The denial of ordination of a pastor in New England because he testified to his belief in the inerrancy of scripture is evidence.
-The revoking of a pastor’s credentials and throwing his family out of their parsonage for preaching against the evils of the emergent church movement is evidence.
-The embrace of Roman Catholics as “brothers and sisters” in Christ, notwithstanding the RCC’s heretical teachings, is evidence.
-The welcoming of contemplative mysticism into the church is evidence of its new progressivism.
-The emphasis on the social gospel or the environmental gospel taking on almost equal importance with the true Gospel.
-The shunning of traditional Nazarenes in their churches if they do not accept these new progressive ideas is evidence.
-The rejection of biblical inerrancy as written by a Holiness Today editor is evidence.
The absolute silence by the General Superintendents as all this nonsense is occurring is evidence.

There is much, much more evidence, and you can read it on my blog if you wish.

This is no longer the denomination of my father, who was a true holiness preacher/pastor and would have had his heart broken if he had known of what is going on now. My late father-in-law also was a Nazarene holiness preacher and pastor, and he testified to me of all these bizarre, unholy practices that the Nazarenes are bringing in with a total lack of discernment amongst district leaders and pastors.

These folks, like Tom Oord, are outlyers in this story. Apparently even he and a few others were just too much for those leaders who are normally very compromising in allowing just about any heretical practice in the church. Why? Who knows? Perhaps they went to such an extreme that even Nazarenes who don’t like to “rock the boat” were getting upset about these heretical views.

Perhaps this progressivism is to get as many people into the “tent” as possible. That is what they say, isn’t it? We have a big tent, they say, in the Church of the Nazarene, and we welcome “diverse views”. But heaven forbid if you believe in the literal Genesis account of creation, or if you believe in the inerrancy of scripture, or if you believe in evangelizing Catholics instead of pandering to them. Heaven forbid if you believe that it is wrong to pander to the LGBT crowd and their progressive agenda of full acceptance in the church. No, in that case, you are forced out, or told to get with the program and shut up.

In his article, Rev. Shewell says: “Maybe the UMC has gained an unpopular reputation for the fights we’re in, but we stay together, loving and serving for something greater than our differences.” Well, let’s see what that kind of thinking and “unity” has gotten the United Methodist Church over the years:

  • The UMC is not only a member of the radical World Council of Churches, but is its primary financial source.
  • UMC pastors constantly join hand in hand with Roman Catholics, Unitarians, other radical groups, and even interfaith groups (non-Christians). Clearly not a Wesleyan kind of worldview, and clearly opposite the view of the Methodist Articles of Faith developed by John Wesley.
  • A modernistic view of doctrine. Quote from the UMC Conference in 1976 frames the current UMC mindset: ““We do not believe … in rigid doctrinal concepts to hold us steady in a wavering world.”
  • At least 30 percent of UMC ministers do not believe Jesus Christ is God, and 82% say they do not believe the Bible is the perfect Word of God. As early as 1968 a widely publicized scientific survey by Jeffrey Hadden which was published by the Washington University showed that about 60% of the Methodist clergy did not believe in the virgin birth and at least 50% did not believe in the bodily resurrection of Christ.
  • The UMC, although officially against homosexuality as compatible with Christian teaching, is all over the map in this regard in practice. Homosexuals have been ordained in several states; and countless pastors and bishops have joined forces to proudly declare their support of same sex “marriage” and ordination of homosexuals.
  • The UMC has always been in support of abortion rights, calling for the legalization of abortion in 1972, and supporting the Roe v Wade decision by the Supreme Court.
    (source: http://www.wayoflife.org/database/denominations_today.html)

If Rev. Shewell feels comfortable with these positions (and others I have not mentioned), then perhaps he will someday return to the Church of the Nazarene, as it also is heading the way of the UMC and other apostate denominations. Although John Wesley himself is not the ultimate measure of what is right and wrong for a church, my comparisons to him are to point to the utter hypocrisy of these people who believe they are “Wesleyan” in doctrine. Most evident of their hypocrisy is that they reject the very testimony of John Wesley who believed in the full inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture. But as most liberals tend to do, they don’t let the facts get in the way of their distortion of history and biblical truth.

So this blaming of Bible believing, conservative traditionalists for the woes of the Nazarene denomination is all nonsense. The Church of the Nazarene, of which I am still a member for now, has gone from holiness to heresy. And the progressives have led the way and still do. That is what is going on, although the deniers will continue to deny it, and will soon condemn people like me for speaking the truth and pointing out their hypocrisy.

Links:

Biblical Inerrancy:
https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/inerrancy-and-wesleyanism/

https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/biblical-inerrancy/

Dave Mosher’s Commentary on Jeremy Smith:

https://davemosher.wordpress.com/2013/12/18/introducing-rev-jeremy-smith-a-heretical-postmodern-umc-blogger-hacking-christianity/

Ric Shewell’s article:

http://hackingchristianity.net/2015/04/the-nazarenes-are-running-off-their-progressives-is-the-umc-next.html

David Cloud’s article on Denominations:

http://www.wayoflife.org/database/denominations_today.html

 

 

 

 

God Cannot Know The Future: A Damnable Lie in The Nazarene Denomination

“God cannot know the future.”

This is Open Theism explained in it simplest terms.  In fact, a book on Open Theism just needs to have these five words in it, and no further explanation.  No need to spend additional wasted words in trying to explain this false idea.  Open Theism is a theological philosophy that at the end of the day contradicts what the Bible teaches. Scripture teaches that God is sovereign, that He knows what His plans are and He purposes to do all that He wishes.  Yet Open Theism continues to be an acceptable belief system that is allowed to be taught in all the Nazarene universities, Nazarene Theological Seminary, and the Bible college.  (It’s twin evil ideology is process theology, which teaches that God learns from his mistakes).

It would be very hard for a Nazarene pastor to openly tell this to his congregation, because Open Theism is a lie from the pit of hell.  If a pastor is possibly an open theist, ask him if he would be willing to speak plainly about this to his congregation, and to state that he believes these five simple words.  He probably would not be able to do it, at least without having some of his congregation walk out of the church in disgust.  My own former pastor believes in this lie, yet I do not believe that he would ever want to openly admit that to his congregation.  Who would dare preach a sermon called “God Cannot Know The Future?”

Thomas Oord has been for years the primary Nazarene spokesman for this damnable lie, yet the Church of the Nazarene is quite comfortable in letting him continue with his influence of many college students and others throughout the denomination.  It is no surprise, because many in leadership positions believe this lie too.  Oord is still is listed as Professor of Theology and Philosophy at Northwest Nazarene University, although he is supposedly going to leave in a year or two.  He has written several books on the subject, and is considered one of the leading experts on Open Theism.

This is the same Tom Oord who disagreed with me that sin came into the world as a result of Adam’s sin.  This is the same Tom Oord who does not believe that Adam was a literally created human as described in Genesis.  He is the same Tom Oord who also believes that man came to existence through the process of evolution, another dammable lie which is sadly believed by many Nazarene theologians, college professors, and pastors today.

In his latest book, The Uncontrolling Love of God, Oord sums it up this way:

“Most people will say God is in control. I don’t think God is in control. I think God has uncontrolling love and that given the choice between saying God is in control or God is all-loving, which I think we end up having to do, I will go with all-loving. That’s going to make some people nervous, but the payoff, the benefits to that, in my mind, far exceed … the costs.”

In “his mind” Oord chooses to disregard such powerful testimony to God’s sovereign power and omniscience as the following:

“I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.’ Isaiah 46:10 

“But the plans of the LORD stand firm forever, the purposes of his heart through all generations.” Psalm 33:11 

“The LORD Almighty has sworn, “Surely, as I have planned, so it will be, and as I have purposed, so it will happen.” Isaiah 14:24 

“Many are the plans in a person’s heart, but it is the LORD’s purpose that prevails.” Proverbs 19:2

There is nothing that God does not know.  He would not be God if the opposite were true.  Nothing is out of God’s control, not a single thing.  If so, He would not be truly God, and we who are so insignificant would have little hope in Him.  Yet Tom Oord and others of his disbelieving kind choose to disregard the evidence in God’s word, and instead make the mistake of trying to explain everything that cannot be completely understood by his feeble mind.  They appeal to “academic freedom” as an excuse to teach anything they want, even if unscriptural.  It’s a mistake that many self-serving theologians make time and time again.

A Reasoned Response

The following partial quote is from the Facebook page of Fundamental Wesleyan Publishers.

“In my view, Open Theism has substituted the doctrine of the absolute sovereignty of God for a hybrid of Pelagianism and humanism; the end result makes man the prime actor and God merely the reactor; which in turn makes us God while making God secondary and subject to our will.

However, God can still be supreme love and supreme authority without any contradiction, because, as Scripture reveals, these are the two sides to His character. He is Holy love as defined by Scripture and not “love” as determined by human ideas about love.

Open Theism raises also the following questions: If God cannot know the future, was the atonement an afterthought? How does Open Theism understand Satan and the fallen angels in relation to God’s sovereignty? Is God also subject to the choices the devil makes as and when he makes them? If God is subject to our will, surely He must also be subject to the devil’s will. Does this situation not make God a victim of His own creation and of sin?

One of the most serious flaws in Open Theism is that it dispenses altogether with prevenient grace by elevating human freedom to the point of making us dictate to God; it relegates Him to a secondary player in His created universe and makes us our own God. None of which is anywhere close to what the NT defines as our faith; neither could this strange idea ever fly under the banner of “Wesleyanism.”

Open Theism has pushed the envelope of human freedom to the extent that it’s not possible to recognize in it a trace of “the faith once and for all delivered to the saints.” This is because Open Theism is not “the faith once and for all delivered to the saints” and should therefore be rejected outright as an unvarnished attempt to substitute human ideas for the Gospel of Jesus Christ.” (Rev. Roy D Oosthuizen, an elder in the Church of the Nazarene in South Africa.​)​
END QUOTE

Conclusion

I do not know whether Rev. Oosthuizen agrees with everything I have written in exposing what is going on in the church.  But in this instance he has expressed a belief that Bible believing Nazarenes share, and that is that Open Theism is a theological viewpoint that has no place in the Church of the Nazarene or any other Christian denomination or independent church.

As I read from time to time the meaningless ramblings of the “learned ones” on NazNet, I see so many pastors who believe this lie, and so many pastors who do not believe that the Bible is God’s perfect word.  I see them as they verbally abuse those who would gently give their opinion that they do believe in all the Scriptures; that they do believe evolution is a false teaching and incompatible with Scripture; that they do believe Adam actually was real, as Scripture tells us plainly.

The beliefs of Tom Oord and his friends at Naznet are a microcosm of the disease that has spread through the Church of the Nazarene. These skeptics are no longer the exception. I see it all around.  I have heard it from the mouths of leaders from my New England District.  In the coming weeks and months, I will remind you of the compromising attitude among the leadership in the church that has led it to this point. I will continue to make the point that one the biggest factors in the failure of the Church of the Nazarene to maintain its holiness message, and its Bible-believing message, can be traced to the leadership failure at the top.  I will make the case that not a single one of the General Superintendents have stood up against the many false doctrines as well as the wolves that have infiltrated the church.  They have done nor said anything of substance.

Quoting a concerned friend and former Nazarene, Al, who wrote to me recently:

“Granted the “vocal headliners” of the emergent positions in the COTN seem to be in a quiet phase but they all are in the same positions of authority espousing their teachings and preachings.  I have no solutions, but I consider them to be comparable to terrorist sleeper cells – fermenting the students and laymen; today’s and tomorrow’s leaders.  I am appalled at the ignorance on these matters by the laity, the clergy, the church boards, the educational leaders and board members, the DSs and to even the GSs.  Where in the Bible does it teach discernment is to be shunned?   I am not talking a witch hunt, but this is the precise time for strong action to affirm to our theological leaders and those in charge from the top to the bottom that COTN’s Articles of Faith are to be embraced and those that are unable to enthusiastically agree need to be honest as a matter of personal integrity and quietly take appropriate action.  No more “soft” acceptance of and teaching of emergent theology or positions.”

Friends, Open Theism is just one of the many unbiblical teachings and practices plaguing the Church of the Nazarene today.  There is less holiness, and a lot more heresy now.  Unless something significant occurs to stem the tide, the day is coming when it will join the likes of the PCUSA, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, and many other apostate denominations.

It will then finally become as irrelevant as all the rest.

 

Pope Francis: The Evangelical’s Adulation of A False Religion’s Leader

Pope Francis has finally left, after a week long visit to the United States.  He is the so-called “vicar of Christ”, a title which gives him the same power and authority over the church that Christ has. This doctrine is clearly blasphemy.  But there is so much more about this man, and the false religion he represents. Those of us who know the real Gospel know better, but to those who are not walking in the light of God’s truth, his visit was a great blessing!  The praise of this man in all the media outlets, and from many evangelical leaders, was all consuming.  And also how sad to have noted some of my own Christian friends, who once knew better, expressing their admiration for a man and a religion that daily promotes a lie to many around the world.

We are told in Scripture that we are not to judge the world, but to judge those in the church.  And we are to judge righteously as well.  It is to those in the church who I wish to speak of, as we are commanded to do in Scripture.  The amazing display of adulation and respect shown this past week for the man most responsible for promoting the world’s most false, most wicked imitation of Christianity, is astonishing.  Yet, it ought to be no surprise to us, because it this spirit of ecumenicalism that has been unfolding for decades now in the evangelical church, amongst Protestants whose very founding was based on Martin Luther’s rejection of the false teachings of the church.

For years, the Church of the Nazarene and other evangelical denominations have been gradually embracing the Roman Catholic Church as an equal partner in faith.  The predominant refrain seems to be is that as long we all proclaim Christ as the Savior, all other differences can be overlooked.  (Should we accept Mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses as authentic Christianity?)

But is this broad ecumenical view (as long as anyone proclaims Jesus as Savior) based on Scripture, or based on man’s desire for “unity?”  Does Roman Catholicism preach the same Gospel as we do in the Protestant tradition, or do they preach another gospel?  Why did the Reformation occur in the first place?  It was because Martin Luther saw that there were serious errors- heresies actually- that were being promulgated by the Roman church, and he tried as hard as he could to reform the church.  His nailing of the 95 Theses set the stage for a great change in the church, with a clean break being made from the Roman Catholic Church and the pope’s authority.  Have we forgotten history?  It seems many have now.

Here are the words of false evangelical pastor, Rick Warren:

“There’s still real differences—no doubt about that.  But the most important thing is, if you love Jesus, we’re on the same team.”

And here is what TD Jakes, prosperity gospel preacher loved by many, said:

“A special thanks to President Obama for his VIP invitation to attend such a historical event.”

TD Jakes is on the record as believing that we have too much in common with Roman Catholicism to not work together.

And Joel Osteen, a motivational speaker who makes millions pretending to be a pastor, said the following:

“I like the pope. I like that he’s making the Catholic Church more open to bring people in and not exclude them.  He’s a man of the people. I like what he stands for: humility, reaching out to others and he’s not so formal that people can’t relate to him.”

Read some of the words of the general superintendent of the Wesleyan Church, Jo Anne Lyon, who received an invitation from President Obama to see the pope this week.

“The Wesleyan Church and the Roman Catholic Church differ in our doctrine but we worship the same Jesus Christ, our Lord.”

You can read the rest of her comments here: https://www.wesleyan.org/4164/welcoming-the-pope-to-america

I find it astounding that a leader of a Protestant denomination that emphasizes holiness would say such a thing.  This is a reflection of either complete and utter ignorance, or Dr. Lyon has sold out to the devil along with the others who have chosen to compromise biblical doctrine.  Does she not realize that we do not worship the same Jesus as the pope does, as she claims?  Does she not know that this “Jesus” of the Roman Catholic Church is a false jesus?  Does she also believe that we can go to heaven through our good works?  Or that the real body and blood of Jesus appears in every communion wafer and wine? Are these doctrines, and more, just minor differences?

Have these evangelicals ignored this command?

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you” (2 Corinthians 6:14).

We have university presidents and ordained pastors talking about Roman Catholics as “our sisters and brothers in Christ.”  They promote retreats to Roman Catholic monasteries where they enthusiastically support contemplative mysticism.  There is even a Nazarene pastor prominently showing off a picture of himself taking confessional at St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome.  We have theology professors like Mark Maddix of Northwest Nazarene University ignorantly promoting Roman Catholicism as being theologically sound.  Pastors have been routinely quoting Mother Teresa and Roman Catholic mystics now for years in their sermons.  And over at the NazNet website and Sacramental Nazarenes FaceBook page, as you read over and over the thoughts of pastors on these sites, you see a flippant and casual attitude towards all this.  You will not see a bit of condemnation of the heresies promoted by the false prophet known as pope Francis.

They are all buying into ecumenicalism.  The great compromise in the church will continue on and on, and will get worse.  The only faithful Christians remaining standing will be in small home churches, or independent churches who will stand firm and uphold the truth of God’s word, at any cost.

There are a few who are willing to speak out. Jordan Standridge, pastoral associate at Immanuel Bible Church in Springfield, Virginia, wrote an article entitled “Why Evangelicals and Catholics Cannot Be Together.” He noted many problems coming from the 1995 “Evangelicals and Catholics Together” document.
(http://thecripplegate.com/why-evangelicals-and-catholics-cannot-be-together/)

 “Well-known evangelical pastors .. joined themselves with Catholic priests and philosophers in an ecumenical fashion in order to promote the agreements over the disagreements that have plagued Protestants and Catholics for centuries.  Now, he said, “The vast majority of Christians in America do not evangelize Catholics. Someone like me who has shed many tears over the deception of the Roman Catholic Church is seen as hateful.”

“I totally understand the desire to believe people are saved.  I also desperately want Roman Catholics to go to heaven, but we can’t let our desire for people to be saved or our desire to please men lead us to cheer them on as they run towards Hell. We must love them.”

For my friends who have been impressed with the pope, and believe his visit was a good thing, please consider my words.  Why do you believe that?  Can you give a solid biblical reason that Protestant Christians should unite with Rome?

Here is one good reason that we should not only have nothing to do with the pope and Rome’s teachings, but we should do our best to rescue as many as possible form the bondage of this false religion.  In Galatians 1:6-9, Paul gives us a very serious warning:

I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. (Gal. 1:6-9)

The Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel.  That is reason enough to reject it, to refute it, and to lovingly witness to those are lost in bondage from this false religion.  My father was freed from that bondage as a young man in the Cape Verde Islands, and went on to become a holiness preacher and pastor.  My father in law also was freed from Romanism as a young man, and also became a holiness preacher.  It would break their hearts today to know that the pastors that are being sent out from the seminaries to shepherd new churches, are ignoring Paul’s admonition and holding hands with the purveyors of a false gospel.  Truly the last days are upon us.

FOR REFERENCE:

https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/roman-catholic-beliefs-practices-biblical/

https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/what-i-saw-at-general-assembly-%E2%80%8Bfri%E2%80%8Bday-june-2-1%E2%80%8B/

https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/the-roman-catholicization-of-the-church-of-the-nazarene/

https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/evangelicals-continue-in-error-by-promoting-roman-catholicism/

https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/the-popes-word-or-gods-word-one-of-them-is-lying/